Motion to move TNP's embassy to the bottom of the list

[St Oz]

It's no secret that I despise everything about TNP, they are and always have been a region full of cliquey elitists with nothing much to offer us.

Their map is ugly.

Their RP is laughable with OOC injections everywhere in it.

Their Democracy is questionable by the landslide elections they have for such a huge community.

They force people out of office for asinine and alterior reasons, like ex-Justice Funkadelia and ex-Minister Lord Lore.

The list goes on, but we still ignore the issue. Why we're allied with them? I don't know. Tomb might as well be a King, and TNP is his stupid empire. Sure we can have relations with TNP, but let's not give the impression that they're our favorite embassy.

[AwesomeSaucer]

Do whatever you want, but do you really think the placement of TNP's embassy on a list will affect them in the long term?

[Myroria]

A better course of action would be to guillotine effigies of Tomb. /s

[Bustos]

I am neither for this nor against it since it really doesn't matter.  Abstaining if this really goes to a vote.  Thanks for the lulz though.

[Delfos]

did someone say guillotine? GUILLOTINE WITH THEM ALL!

I second Oz's motion.

[Khem]

I demand Oz launch a formal investigation of this "democracy" and its failings. After his report we shall have a full list for the guillotine.

[Cormac]

I'm opposed to this and will vote against it, but having received a motion and a second, I'll bring it to vote at the expiration of the three day mandatory consideration period.

[Eluvatar]

This is nonsense.

I'm getting a little tired of this nonsense, at that.

In foreign policy terms, I'm pretty sure The North Pacific has been a consistent ally of Taijitu's. We were nearly in lockstep on the Lazarus problem, without anyone needing to do any wheeling dealing. We were naturally on pretty much the same page.

Complaints about our alliance with The North Pacific consistently bring standards of similarity in organization and purpose that only one region can meet: Taijitu itself.

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I don't know that St Oz has looked at any maps besides Taijitu's and TNP's recently. If he has, a sample size of 2 is not going to tell you much about how good their map is compared to oh any other region we have relations with, or any region at all.

Current TNP RP is no worse than this community's RP was in 2006-2008, I think. And TNP is actually relatively new to this whole active RP community thing.

Regarding cliquishness... If there's an "in crowd" in TNP I'd be in it, and yet Tomb crushed me handily in the previous Delegate election because I hadn't been as active. The Culture Ministry stuff is more complicated than people have made it out to be, and Funkadelia was not removed from office, he was removed from a particular case on the basis of a conceivable conflict of interest and resigned.

To call Tomb an Emperor right after the NPA and TaiMil worked closely together in removing the Emperor(s) of the "New Lazarene Order" is kind of ridiculous. Like Taijitu, TNP has a firm belief in democratic regional governance. TNP does it differently from us, but the core value is a common one, and this matters.

[Delfos]

Thanks for your input Eluvatar. Similarities between Taijitu and TNP aren't innocent, same with military cooperation and allegiance. It's not by chance, it's only because there is a large number of Taiji or ex-Taiji in TNP or with influence in TNP, and the same thing around.

There is no cake.

[Gulliver]

I have to agree with Eluvatar. As much as I like making fun of TNP too, and as poisonous as their legal culture can be, they're still a hell of a lot more vibrant and democratic than a lot of the other regions I've seen and have stood by us as an ally.

[The Church of Satan]

How about instead the whole list just be alphabetized? It looks ugly not being alphabetized.

[Khem]

Agreeing on alphabetization.

[bigbaldben]

How about instead the whole list just be alphabetized? It looks ugly not being alphabetized.

I agree with the Church of Satan.





Not sure I ever thought I would type that sentence.   

[St Oz]

I'm fine with TNP being at the bottom but otherwise it's in alphabetical order

[Lindisfarne]

How about instead the whole list just be alphabetized? It looks ugly not being alphabetized.

Absolutely the best approach.

If we would like to single out a Region that is very close to us, we could always appoint a "Doyen" to head the list.
Usually the Doyen is the senior diplomat at a station, but if we need to single out, we should do it in a positive way, I think.