I would like to strongly encourage taking any discussion, productive or otherwise, about the conduct of individuals to another thread.
Let's consider this the last word in the thread on the subject (so don't bother with any snide parting remarks) and continue discussing the Criminal Justice Act as intended.
With regard to the last two posts: I don't think we have an act quite ready to be put to a vote yet.
Now, in regard to the legislation:
I wasn't aware that we had any provision allowing the Ecclesia to just vote to remove citizenship for any reason. If the Ecclesia can vote to remove citizenship for any reason, then a list of crimes and penalties isn't necessary -- we can just look at issues together on a case by case basis and make a decision. I'm actually fine with that way of doing things, I was just under the impression that we didn't have any way of addressing someone doing things the community isn't okay with, like treason and spying.
I've never been a fan of judiciaries in NationStates anyway, so to be honest I would prefer a simpler method. I'm fine with this legislation not moving forward.
I'm in favor of the the ad hoc approach, at least while our active community is small. On the other hand, I like the idea of having statutes of limitations and sentencing guidelines for major crimes in law somewhere, and find it hard to imagine an act with such things in it that
doesn't provide a list of specific crimes. Perhaps we should discuss this, and at the very least we will have produced a set of guidelines for the Ecclesia to consider should the need arise for them.