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Title: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Ranholn on March 30, 2007, 08:12:51 PM
Well yesterday i got Ranholn out of CTE heaven, and decided I should look at the traker for a nation i havnt answerd a thing for in... well a long long time, and when i do i just pick something fun.

Well it was 2.5 billion
and a converted GDP per Capita of... 4$
yes thats right it is larger then any nation on earth, and poorer then any nation on earth

This made me think two things, first, wonder if i can make it even more poor
Second rp doesn't have any good ol fashion 3rd world nations. So I was thinking of using Ranholns trackers to craft a bunch of third world nations that have only one resource really Human Labor. This will serve a few purposes, one for places to have outbreaks of diseases and other third world tragedies, a place for humanitarian aid to go to, and a place for Capitalist corporations to Set up Sweat Shops to produce goods paying people about a penny a day (1.09 cents a day if 365 days) that's for the average income, not even the poorest people.

Then we could have good fun like nations deciding how they should treat such poor ass nations.

I would also suggest these nations be in land with horrible climates, arid or something of the such, and have no real resources so conquest would be rather pointless, like the people destroyed everything they once had in wars or it just never existed or something.

what does everyone else thing?
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: The Empire on March 30, 2007, 08:23:47 PM
Me thinks good idea, It's also a great breeding ground for disncontentment and liberation organizations
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Zimmerwald on March 30, 2007, 09:32:11 PM
Me supports.  Also, since players create these with the express purpose of being dominated, this provides a good outlet for bullying-type behavior.  Plus a good propaganda tool for me.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Bustos on March 30, 2007, 09:34:27 PM
A very unique concept.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Talmann on March 30, 2007, 11:53:15 PM
Interesting.... I say, what the heck, why not?
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Khem on March 31, 2007, 12:32:30 AM
oh you finally posed the idea. i forgot we discussed this.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Simple on March 31, 2007, 09:52:47 PM
im for it.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Myroria-Hanso Corporation on March 31, 2007, 10:04:20 PM
As Bustos said, a very interesting idea, but I would need to think about it. Africa is generally agreed to be the worlds shittiest continent, and we don't need another one here.

On the other hand, it would provide a bunch of revenue for capitalist nations (But not you commies, haha) and good RP. So I'd have to think about my answer.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Union on March 31, 2007, 11:43:23 PM
I really see no need, seeing how my country is filling that role  :D. My people don't even have television...also, just because country is mad poor, doesn't mean that a strong leader can't run it smoothly. (When I say "run smoothly", I mostly meant not giving in to the will of foreign superpowers  :D, Like what North Korea has going on)
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Talmann on April 01, 2007, 02:47:15 AM
Yes, CL, but your nation is relatively small as compared to Ranholn. I mean, we're talking a dirt poor nation twice the size (population-wise) of India. I see it as a capitalist "paradise", meaning they can make everything at minimal cost (buying land, salary, etc.) and sell it for higher amount of profit while staying below all competitors.  I also like the idea in that it gives religious nations (Myro) a place to send all their foreign aid.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Khem on April 01, 2007, 10:11:51 AM
and a place for the first church of cthulhu to set u[ cults and have sacrifices.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: The Empire on April 01, 2007, 02:51:02 PM
And for me to start up a small, militant pro-people sect :P

Brotherhood - Unity - Peace  O:-)
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Union on April 01, 2007, 03:34:27 PM
Hmm, is there way way to control population growth in NS? I don't want to have +100 million people making two yao a year in my country...
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Ranholn on April 01, 2007, 07:25:58 PM
their really isnt.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Romanar on April 03, 2007, 03:06:41 PM
No, but some people RP with less than their NS population.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Ranholn on April 03, 2007, 04:49:36 PM
another question, should the 3rd world be a bunch of nations who united use the traker, or one massive failed nation
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Solnath on April 03, 2007, 05:47:52 PM
Both, maybe, it could be divided. Concerning the "playing with a lower population" opportunity, Arasel's population is 72 million. Period.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Ryazania on April 03, 2007, 07:30:02 PM
I would be willing to RP one or more 3rd world nations, as I have given Ryazania to Myroria and Astaporia is still in the Iron Age.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: NFIC on April 03, 2007, 07:36:57 PM
i still dont know why you did that,
I wanted to run them since I enjoy trying out different stuff, but first we got to see if people liked the idea, and using the ranholn tracker insures the nations can never be anything but poor 3rd world
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Ryazania on April 03, 2007, 07:39:00 PM
Alright, sounds good to me. Should we RP one nation or possibly two or three?
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Zimmerwald on April 03, 2007, 09:29:43 PM
No, but some people RP with less than their NS population.

I do!  I believe Ryaz does too.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Bustos on April 03, 2007, 09:31:10 PM
I dont!  ;)

I'd love to RP a corporation buyin into one of the poor countries.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Gulliver on April 03, 2007, 09:32:07 PM
Heheh, what I wanted to do is RP an island nation of 20,000 based on a Simcity of mine, providing for quite a few interesting stats (how many students are currently enrolled at Central High...)

But more importantly, I really don't like all this talk of RPing multiple nations. It never ends well. And believe me, I've tried it before and it gets incredibly awkward attempting to manage two different nations without having their interests and policies overlap (which of course is puppet wanking).
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Ranholn on April 03, 2007, 09:58:51 PM
that's why im keeping these nation have to stay on Ranholn Traker and can not become anything more then 3rd world nation, with at most 1 resource or preferably none
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Gulliver on April 03, 2007, 10:02:11 PM
What's this  now? You're giving yourself for all purposes another nation?
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Bustos on April 03, 2007, 10:02:39 PM
 :shrug:
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: NFIC on April 04, 2007, 07:55:35 PM
yes, but what value will this nation be. I want it to try out different things, this nation wont be able to change it, and if we find someone running one is trying to puppet wank, then you give it to someone else. I dont see how a nation with 4$ per person can actually make someone powerful.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Union on April 04, 2007, 08:07:07 PM
The power does not come from a low income, but rather a low cost of living. When you have citizens needing only 500 dollars a year to live comfortably compare to 50 000 dollars for a another country, the trade advantages are significant. 
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Zimmerwald on April 04, 2007, 08:11:22 PM
A, but CL, that's not the way he's choosing to RP.  He's choosing to have a dirt poor country, with a dirt poor people, susceptible to corporate exploitation and propaganda of all sorts.  In other words, he's making this nation our playground. 

BTW, if you want to get it on the map, Ranholn, could you put it south of St Oz and slightly east of Confederate Freedom?  I'd be oh so grateful.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Ranholn on April 04, 2007, 08:34:48 PM
this will be a nation where poverty and starvation are common. Disease is rampant, water is a rarity. Not a nation that can run trade advantage, but one with people killing each other over the smallest resources.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Zimmerwald on April 04, 2007, 08:40:41 PM
Please respond to my request at the bottom of my post.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Myroria-Hanso Corporation on April 04, 2007, 09:41:48 PM
So anyone who has better technology than technicals can win with enough manpower?

Speaking of shitty countries, does AIDS exist on Taijitu? And, if so, can the MHC find a vaccine for it? Note vaccine is not a cure. And the birth control pill was just as much zomgnevergonnahappen before the '60s as an AIDS vaccine is now.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Zimmerwald on April 04, 2007, 09:45:31 PM
Who said that, Myroria?

And sure, AIDS can exist in Taijitu.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Myroria-Hanso Corporation on April 04, 2007, 09:46:41 PM
No one said that, I was just wondering. For instance, if the EU and the US decided to go and "improve" (and by "improve" I mean "worsen the anarchy") in Africa, they could.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Bustos on April 05, 2007, 04:00:35 AM
A desert nation with no oil might be an ideal location.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Myroria on April 05, 2007, 12:29:38 PM
And make it Somaliaesque factionated.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: NFIC on April 05, 2007, 05:59:34 PM
if the aid vaccine exists, it will be in multiple nations
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Bustos on April 05, 2007, 07:05:47 PM
An AIDS virus vaccine does currently exist, in fact there are multiple versions.  However they are worthless as the AIDS virus constantly mutates generation after generation in an infected body rendering any vaccine useless.  These vaccines were amongst first attempts to combat HIV.

Retrovirus drugs, that attack the reproduction process of the virus, work at keeping the HIV numbers down (which a person will then never suffer from AIDS), assuming you can afford the costs of the prescription.
Title: Re: 3rd world nations and you
Post by: Khem on April 07, 2007, 12:24:12 PM
meh the uichi ryans just kill off anyone in their nation who has such a devestating virus. its the most efficient preventaative. also for their manipulation of the genepool (hence those crazy looking uicho ryans) they utilize retroviruses to spread the genes they wish to be put into place.