It's a good thought, but such a party founded at the moment would really be "my own", in the sense that I would be the only member. Such a formation would inevitably be parasitic on one of the larger parties, or on the region itself.You could always make your own party
Anyway, if you're up to it once Elu gets back you can help us finally finish off that draft of a charter we made who knows how long ago, and maybe make it a bit more explicitly leftist to stand out a bit from the competition.Where's Elu gone?
Elu's away for Memorial Day weekend, he will be back shortly.Hope he's had fun :)
Well, we did have this (http://wiki.taijitu.org/wiki/Proposal/Progressive_Party_Charter) on the wiki and GoogleDocs and was what I was referencing.Ah, that's more like it. I was referring to this (http://wiki.taijitu.org/wiki/Progressive_Party), which is rather less satisfying.
Well, we're hoping that we'll be able to set things up so that the government is also responsible for managing a collectively controlled in game nation, so that it'll have something to do and there will actually be a political element to it since, as you note quite correctly, we are otherwise in a setting devoid of key things like an economy. I was saving moving ahead with that idea until we actually had an elected government back. I hope we can pull that off and create an interesting political mini-game of sorts through the regional government.That's an interesting idea. Would the management of this ingame nation be subject to the separation of powers the way the management of the region is? I should think not. The management of a nation consists of voting up or down on issues and WA resolutions, and the implementation and consequence-adjudication of policies is something the game handles itself. If we're going ahead with this idea, then there should be a separate forum for it, outside the spaces for the three branches of government, where decision-making on behalf of this ingame nation takes place, and where every member of government has an equal say.
Liberty: Individuals have the rights to life, property and to act and think freely. The government must defend these liberties from itself, other governments and the criminal acts of private citizens.
Opportunity: All individuals have the right to the opportunity for a succesful and fulfilling life. Where circumstances conspire to deny an individual such a right, the government must intervene to preserve it. [can this be worked into solidarity with different wording? give back to society so others have the same opportunities?]
Meritocracy: Individuals [...] [necessary? implicit in justice if written better and applied to private arena?]
Solidarity: The success of individuals depends in part on the success of society at large. It is just to expect individuals to give back to the society on which they depend for their success.
Justice: All citizens are entitled to equal treatment and protection under the law. No particular person, group or interest should uniquely be given privileges or afforded penalties by government policies.
Democracy: Government must be directly accountable to those ruled by means free and fair elections. Its business must be transparent and always open to public scrutiny [necessary? is there actually any antidemocratic competition]
Reason: Policies enacted in the pursuit of these goals must be informed by evidence and the rigorous testing of ideas, not rhetoric simply stated as truth without support. When necessary for progress, compromise should be pursued rather than avoided.
[Cosmopolitanism/Internationalism]: All individuals regardless of nationality are members of the global community and have the same fundamental rights. Governments must cooperate to protect these rights and to remove international boundries with arbitrarily divide the world's people. [necessary, too specific?]
["Liberty, solidarity, justice, [reason]" wouldn't be the *worst* slogan ever >.>]
[four main tenants, four is a magical power of 2 D:]
[fucking miracles]
[clearly these comments are no longer useful probably should try a rewrite]
Liberty: Individuals have the rights to life,propertyto that which they create, and to act and think freely. The government must be organized to defend these liberties from itself, other governments and the criminal acts of private citizens.Opportunity: All individuals have the right to the opportunity for a succesful and fulfilling life. Where circumstances conspire to deny an individual such a right, the government must intervene to preserve it. [can this be worked into solidarity with different wording? give back to society so others have the same opportunities?]incorporated into SolidarityMeritocracy: Individuals [...] [necessary? implicit in justice if written better and applied to private arena?]incorporated into Solidarity
Solidarity: The success of individuals depends in part on the success of societyat largeand the success of society on the success and fulfillment of individuals. It is the responsibility of government to preserve all individuals' opportunities to achieve success and fulfilment, to reward exceptional dedication and service, and just to expect individuals to give back tothesocietyon which they depend for their successin return.
Justice: All citizens are entitled to equal treatment and protection under the law, and to an open government made accountable to them by means of free and fair elections. No particular person, group or interest should uniquely be given privileges or afforded penalties by government policies.Democracy: Government must be directly accountable to those ruled by means free and fair elections. Its business must be transparent and always open to public scrutiny [necessary? is there actually any antidemocratic competition]incorporated into Justice. And as for there being no antidemocratic force, the answer would be “not yet”.[Cosmopolitanism/Internationalism]: All individualsregardless of nationality are members of the global community andhave the same fundamental rights. Governments must cooperate to protect these rights and to removeinternational boundries with arbitrarily divide the world's people. [necessary, too specific?]arbitrary boundaries between peoples.
Reason: Policies enacted in the pursuit of these goals must be informed by evidence and the rigorous testing of ideas, not rhetoric simply stated as truth without support. When necessary for progress, compromise should be pursued rather than avoided.
Liberty: Individuals have the rights to life, to that which they create, and to act and think freely. The government must be organized to defend these liberties from itself, other governments and the criminal acts of private citizens.
Solidarity: The success of individuals depends in part on the success of society and the success of society on the success and fulfillment of individuals. It is the responsibility of government to preserve all individuals' opportunities to achieve success and fulfilment, to reward exceptional dedication and service, and just to expect individuals to give back to society in return.
Justice: All citizens are entitled to equal treatment and protection under the law, and to an open government made accountable to them by means of free and fair elections. No particular person, group or interest should uniquely be given privileges or afforded penalties by government policies.
Internationalism: All individuals have the same fundamental rights. Governments must cooperate to protect these rights and to remove arbitrary boundaries between peoples.
Reason: Policies enacted in the pursuit of these goals must be informed by evidence and the rigorous testing of ideas, not rhetoric simply stated as truth without support. When necessary for progress, compromise should be pursued rather than avoided.
Why "that they create" instead of just "property"? Why the addition of "organized to"? I'm not necessarily disagreeing, I just want to know your thinking because otherwise it's tricky for me to see if I agree with your point or not.Thinking back on it, "be organized to" is probably suspect, since it identifies institutional structure rather than officers' behavior as the primary means to make government defend liberties, and I suppose to some extent absolves officers of responsibility. As for "property", part of the point was to differentiate the ProP from the PNLF, and having both parties pledging to defend that exact thing didn't seem conducive to difference. Also, I think it important to differentiate between different types of property, defining some as more defensible than others rather than defending property as a general principle. Property created by users includes most of which is considered important, including user accounts, nations, etc.
In any case, I'm working on another draft right now working with some of what you've said which'll hopefully be better than the last one.Well, hopefully it gets better each time. I suspect yours will be more concise than mine, among other improvements. I have a tendency to qualify beyond the point of necessity.
Liberty: All persons have the rights to life, property and to act and think freely. The institutions of government must be organized to defend these liberties from themselves, other governments and the criminal acts of individuals.
Solidarity: The success of individuals depends on the success of society and the success of society on the success of individuals. Government must protect individuals from arbitrary hardship and preserve their opportunties to success and fullfillment. Individuals who can must give back to society in return [for such proction and opportunities/so that others can be given the same protections and opportunities].
Justice: All persons have a right to equal treatment in both the public and private spheres. Individuals must all be equal before the law and government policy. Private transactions must be conducted fairly, and where necessary the government must impose regulations to ensure such equity.
Democracy: Government must be directly accountable to those ruled by means free and fair elections, direct petitions and referendums. Its business must be transparent and always open to public scrutiny.
Reason: Policies enacted in the pursuit of these goals must be informed by evidence and the rigorous testing of ideas, not rhetoric simply stated as truth without support. When necessary, compromise should be pursued rather than avoided.
Liberty: All persons have the rights to life, property and to act and think freely.TheTaijitu’s institutions of government must be organized to defend these liberties fromthemselves,Taijitu’s and other governments, and from the criminal acts of individuals.
Solidarity:The success of individuals depends on the success of society and the success of society on the success of individualsSociety and individuals rely upon each other’s achievements for their own. Government must protect individuals from arbitrary hardship and preserve their opportunties to success and fullfillment. Individuals who can must give back to society in return[for such proction and opportunities/so that others can be given the same protections and opportunities].
Justice: All persons have a right to equal treatment in both the public and private spheres. Individuals must all be equal before the law and government policy. Private transactions must be conducted fairly, and where necessary the government must impose regulations to ensure such equity.
Democracy: Government must be directly accountable to those ruled by means free and fair elections, direct petitions and referendums. Its business must be transparent and always open to public scrutiny.
Reason: Policies enacted in the pursuit of these goals must be informed by evidence and the rigorous testing of ideas, not rhetoric simply stated as truth without support. When necessary, compromise should be pursued rather than avoided.
Liberty: All persons have the rights to life, property and to act and think freely. Taijitu’s institutions of government must be organized to defend these liberties from Taijitu’s and other governments, and from the criminal acts of individuals.
Solidarity: Society and individuals rely upon each other’s achievements for their own. Government must protect individuals from arbitrary hardship and preserve their opportunties to success and fullfillment. Individuals who can must give back to society in return.
Justice: All persons have a right to equal treatment in both the public and private spheres. Individuals must all be equal before the law and government policy. Private transactions must be conducted fairly, and where necessary the government must impose regulations to ensure such equity.
Democracy: Government must be directly accountable to those ruled by means free and fair elections, direct petitions and referendums. Its business must be transparent and always open to public scrutiny.
Reason: Policies enacted in the pursuit of these goals must be informed by evidence and the rigorous testing of ideas, not rhetoric simply stated as truth without support. When necessary, compromise should be pursued rather than avoided.
Liberty: All persons have the rights to life, property and to act and think freely. Government must be organized to defend these liberties from itself[, other governments] and from the criminal acts of individuals.
Solidarity: Society and individuals rely upon each other’s achievements for their own [alternative proposal: "The success of society and individuals are fundamentally linked" or similar construction]. Government must protect individuals from arbitrary hardship and preserve their opportunities to success and fulfilment, and individuals who can must give back to society in return.
Justice: All persons have a right to equal treatment in both the public and private spheres. Individuals must all be equal before the law and government policy. Private transactions must be conducted fairly, and where necessary the government must impose regulations to ensure such equity.
Democracy: Government must be directly accountable to those ruled by means free and fair elections, direct petitions and referendums. Its business must be transparent and always open to public scrutiny.
Reason: Policies enacted in the pursuit of these goals must be informed by evidence and the rigorous testing of ideas, not rhetoric simply stated as truth without support. When necessary, compromise should be pursued rather than avoided.
Liberty: All persons have the rights to life, property and to act and think freely. Governments must be organized to defend these liberties from all threats.
Solidarity: Society and individuals depend on one another for success. Society, through government when necessary, must protect individuals from arbitrary hardship and aid them in their pursuits, and individuals who can must give back to society in return.
Justice: All persons have a right to equal treatment in both the public and private spheres. Individuals must all be equal before the law and government policy. Private business must be conducted fairly, and government must ensure this.
Democracy: Government must be directly accountable to those it serves. Its business must be transparent and open to public scrutiny.
Reason: Decisions should be informed by reflection and evidence.