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Taijitu World Building => Planning Room => Topic started by: Myroria on January 09, 2015, 03:05:52 AM
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I think as Taijitu becomes more active we need to do some reorganizing of the worldbuilding section. I don't think the Ecclesia needs to worry itself with this, especially since most members of the legislature don't write here on any sort of regular basis, so let's have an informal discussion here and come up with what to do, if anything.
This was my idea:
History section: This section would be devoted to RPs dedicated to explaining and elaborating on crucial pieces of nations' history, such as the "Origins of the Allied States" or "The Empire of Letonna".
Treaties and Conferences section: Self-explanatory. For threads like "Cefnor Conference" and "Novrith Conference".
International Incidents section: We don't have many of these now, but this area would be for diplomatic incidents, wars, and so on. I'd like to see this section have a pre-modern, for pre-1980, and modern, for post-1980, set of subforums.
Internal Incidents section: Like the International Incidents section, this would have pre-modern and modern sections. They would focus on internal turmoil within nations, i.e. the Delfos nuclear RP, or "The Noble Republic".
Character Stories section: This, like the previous two sections, would have pre-modern and modern sections. They would focus tightly on a set of characters set within the overarching world of Taijitu. For threads like "Household", "Succession", or Oz's "Second Wind".
Any input from other writers? Sections we could do without? Sections we should add? General suggestions?
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Would we still be dividing RP's by chronological period? Or would we just make sure to date them in the topic? I always thought topic dating was sufficient.
"Character Stories" and "History" might due with better names like "Historical Records" or something, though other than that sorta meh suggestion I'm blanking right now.
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You make a good point about title dating.
"Historical Records" sounds good to me. "Character Stories" could be called "Individuals and People" or something similar.
I suppose we could make a "Miscellaneous" section, now that I think of it, as well.
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Is there anything we realistically expect that'll end up in Miscellaneous?
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Wondered if we were going to go back to that old set up.
Also what about a National Statistics section?
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I think as Taijitu becomes more active we need to do some reorganizing of the worldbuilding section. I don't think the Ecclesia needs to worry itself with this, especially since most members of the legislature don't write here on any sort of regular basis, so let's have an informal discussion here and come up with what to do, if anything.
This was my idea:
History section: This section would be devoted to RPs dedicated to explaining and elaborating on crucial pieces of nations' history, such as the "Origins of the Allied States" or "The Empire of Letonna".
Treaties and Conferences section: Self-explanatory. For threads like "Cefnor Conference" and "Novrith Conference".
International Incidents section: We don't have many of these now, but this area would be for diplomatic incidents, wars, and so on. I'd like to see this section have a pre-modern, for pre-1980, and modern, for post-1980, set of subforums.
Internal Incidents section: Like the International Incidents section, this would have pre-modern and modern sections. They would focus on internal turmoil within nations, i.e. the Delfos nuclear RP, or "The Noble Republic".
Character Stories section: This, like the previous two sections, would have pre-modern and modern sections. They would focus tightly on a set of characters set within the overarching world of Taijitu. For threads like "Household", "Succession", or Oz's "Second Wind".
Any input from other writers? Sections we could do without? Sections we should add? General suggestions?
YES! YES! YES!
I like the Historical Records suggestion and also Miscellaneous as a category.
Wondered if we were going to go back to that old set up.
Also what about a National Statistics section?
certainly behind this.
Perhaps also something like celebrations/worlds fair as a category?
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Is there anything we realistically expect that'll end up in Miscellaneous?
Could do RP shops, embassies, and the like.
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Creating a section for Character stories and renaming the pre-modern to history is fine, but I dislike separating "international incidents" to "internal incidents". Any incident can become international and labeling it "internal" makes it less susceptible to integrating other RPers.
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I don't like the "International Incidents" system, let's not dumb ourselves down for the sake of some feederites who can't be bothered to understand what we really do in the worldbuilding section.
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Creating a section for Character stories and renaming the pre-modern to history is fine, but I dislike separating "international incidents" to "internal incidents". Any incident can become international and labeling it "internal" makes it less susceptible to integrating other RPers.
I don't like the "International Incidents" system, let's not dumb ourselves down for the sake of some feederites who can't be bothered to understand what we really do in the worldbuilding section.
Then simply Incidents? Or did you guys have something else in mind?
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"Modern World" ?
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And if they occur in pre modern times though? Hence Gulliver's suggestion to remove sections by time era and put the timeline in the topic of the thread.
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Creating a section for Character stories and renaming the pre-modern to history is fine, but I dislike separating "international incidents" to "internal incidents". Any incident can become international and labeling it "internal" makes it less susceptible to integrating other RPers.
I don't like the "International Incidents" system, let's not dumb ourselves down for the sake of some feederites who can't be bothered to understand what we really do in the worldbuilding section.
Then simply Incidents? Or did you guys have something else in mind?
The current format is the best choice in my opinion, why does it need changed?
adding a history section might be good, also including instructions on how to make a wiki and a link to the wiki, but other than that, don't change anything else.
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Creating a section for Character stories and renaming the pre-modern to history is fine, but I dislike separating "international incidents" to "internal incidents". Any incident can become international and labeling it "internal" makes it less susceptible to integrating other RPers.
I don't like the "International Incidents" system, let's not dumb ourselves down for the sake of some feederites who can't be bothered to understand what we really do in the worldbuilding section.
Then simply Incidents? Or did you guys have something else in mind?
The current format is the best choice in my opinion, why does it need changed?
adding a history section might be good, also including instructions on how to make a wiki and a link to the wiki, but other than that, don't change anything else.
I like the idea of splitting along these lines as I would personally find it useful. Categories spawn ideas.
Instructions on how to make a wiki are a good idea, I was also going to work up a writing guide in the Worldbuilding wiki (http://wiki.taijitu.org/wiki/Taijitu_worldbuilding).
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Treaties and Incidents I suppose could all fall under a single category, really. What would the distinction be between those and "Character Stories" however? Would be one mainly of style, with Character Stories essentially being short stories, and the former being more traditional RP's? Of course, it's a very hazy boundary.
The one that seems clear to me is the History section, which of course would presumably be posts or links to Wiki articles written in the style of a history book rather than a narrative. Though, factbooks could potentially be written in the same way in some cases so there's overlap.
Ultimately it seems to me there's going to be some arbitrary calls involved, but I worry about there being too many sections. One option would be subsections if necessary.
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Subsections might work better. Hazy boundaries are good in my opinion though, they allow for overlap which I see as a good thing.
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How about a "Historical Records" section, a "Treaties and Organizations" section, and an "Individuals and People" section, and we leave the rest in the main worldbuilding board?
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so:
WorldBuilding
- Taijitu WorldBuilding
- - Historical Records
- - Treaties and Organizations
- - Individuals and People
- Planning Room
???
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so:
WorldBuilding
- Taijitu WorldBuilding
- - Historical Records
- - Treaties and Organizations
- - Individuals and People
- Planning Room
--Factbooks
--Active Storylines
???
My suggestion.
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Why do we want a Factbooks area? Should the Wiki work?
What's the point of Active Storylines, and why should it be separate from the other areas (why after Planning Room??)
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Sorry was trying to show subforums. Separating planning, OOC comments on stories and portraits of people and places. Why factbooks would be such is easier on many than building a wiki, as much as I enjoy building such. I believe OOC comments getting their own section would just neaten things up and make searches easier.
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I did make an attempt to transfer to the wiki but the coding is apparently very different.
In general, its way easier to develop one in the forums, imho. Being able to use a post per section, rather than scrolling through a whole wiki page of info and coding, is easier on the eyes for editing.
Perhaps, National Statistics and Info? It can include the Fact Books, RP Shops, Embassies, and the like.
I like the relabeling of sections as I believe it would foster more ideas and RPing from various people.
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I think that we should consider this again. Worldbuilding has grown and will only get bigger.
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I agree. Are there sections specifically that people want to exist? The current list is kind of muddled as to what people actually want.
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I agree with Myroria and Al'Khem, this is a good idea to consider.
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Alternative History (either of our RP or RL)
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I would like a "character stories" section, as well as a "history" section.
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The forum doesn't seem so busy as to require the existing subforums being split more.
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The forum doesn't seem so busy as to require the existing subforums being split more.
I have to agree, I never liked them splits anyway
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I'm firmly about subsections, they can spur creativity. I particularly like the idea of a character stories subsection.
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Aren't basically all our stories character stories?
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I believe this would be for short stories of average citizens rather than powerful people within the nations.
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Fair enough, plenty of our stories are about powerful people.
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I don't understand the splitting. We all already character RP and people might get confused and start shitty tnp inspired diplomatic alliance rps /me sends 100k soldiers bruh.
Why do we need a distinction.
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Perhaps not calling it that would help? Something more like "Portraits of your Nation" or some such. I don't strictly think we need that subdivision in particular at this juncture but perhaps in the future. I do favor the "Internal" vs "International" subforum idea as well as a subsection in Pre-Modern Fiction for "Historical Records/Debates". A "National Image" subsection (or really any other name for anything in quotes) for creating streams of information such as national animals and misc things related to our nations feel that don't necessarily enter into actual writing, perhaps in the planning room?
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I don't see the need for "Character RPs" as a separate category. Powerful or average characters, it's all already character driven RP at some level.
A devoted section for history and facts however could be useful. That said I'd be wary of generating too many new subsections, or nesting them too deep. I think at most 2 levels should be the limit.
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Also putting a distinction between major types of RP and average joe RP might be seen as trivializing average joe RP.
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Also putting a distinction between major types of RP and average joe RP might be seen as trivializing average joe RP.
That is a good point.
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Also putting a distinction between major types of RP and average joe RP might be seen as trivializing average joe RP.
Was on the fence, but am swayed by this point.
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So my draft of breakdown would be the following:
-Modern Era Fiction
--Exceprts
-Pre-Modern Era Fiction
--Historical Records
-Miscellaneous Writing
--Science Fiction/Future Tech
--Embassy Exchange
-Worldbuilding Guide
-Planning Room
--OOC
--Image
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I don't understand the splitting. We all already character RP and people might get confused and start shitty tnp inspired diplomatic alliance rps /me sends 100k soldiers bruh.
Why do we need a distinction.
I wholly agree with this.