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Taijitu World Building => Planning Room => Topic started by: Delfos on October 14, 2014, 07:56:57 PM

Title: Nuclear Power
Post by: Delfos on October 14, 2014, 07:56:57 PM
So I'm RPing about the last Nuclear Power Plant in New Delfos (http://forum.taijitu.org/modern-national-role-play/geioshu-nuclear-power-complex/msg146979), the others have been closed down similar to Germany's "phase-out" program, there weren't too many in New Delfos but there has been high political pressure to close them down. I've been wanting to RP about this bc modern New Delfos has no nuclear power, yet it had in the past. The Geioshu Power Plant will have a similar fate as the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster).

Any doubt go ahead and ask, any will to participate, ask. I will definitely need participation in the Chapter 3 "Aftermath". Anybody willing to pick up characters, even international characters, like a spokesperson of the anti-nuclear movement, other nuclear scientists, TV reports, lets plan it here so you can participate. Mind Chapter 1 is pretty much locked into the building of the story, there's not much room to add new things unless they are very pertinent.

All this said, I'd like to ask any of you for any nuclear accident happening to each of your nations. Minor, Major, calamity level, don't worry, they'll all be very welcome. They will be added to the timeline of Taijitu RP and I will use them in my RP for political pressure to close down the Nuclear Plant.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Delfos on October 14, 2014, 08:10:12 PM
We should also make a list of who has/had nuclear power, maybe additional info about having nuclear weapons might be interesting for Taijitu RP stats.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Khem on October 14, 2014, 08:18:24 PM
1970 CE: Khem dismantles its first Nuclear Reactor deeming it “unsafe and against the nature of Gaia”. Sells off its nuclear arsenal.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Myroria on October 14, 2014, 09:01:22 PM
Myroria loves its nuclear power as a cleaner, safer alternative to polluting coal. The growth of nuclear power only accelerates in the 80s and 90s as the full extent of global warming becomes known. I'll throw in some incidents and Myroria would be willing to send nuclear physicists and engineers to Delfos as well.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: St Oz on October 14, 2014, 09:05:59 PM
1967: Ulozh Nuclear Disaster. Full details of the disaster not published or made known in Ozia or Taijitu until after the 1968 coup. 1.5 million civilians, scientists, engineers, and soldiers "volunteer" for the liquidation process from 1967 until the coup. Ozian aircraft mobilize to treat soil and seed clouds over Vonisia which create black rain in the region. Other civilians are evacuated to Segom. Ozians declare no fly zone over Vonisia and high altitude jets with air-to-air missiles and high altitude surface-to-air missiles are transferred to Vonisia. 2-7 days afterwards, neighboring Jutensan/khemish/Elaran university/powerplant radiation alarms go off. Ozian aircraft flying over Cefnor seeding more clouds. International Confusion. 20 days after accident, international energy commission demands a report from Ozian authorities. Ozian authorities claim they have no idea what's causing the anomaly. yadda yadda.

Ozians never officially state they have nukes or not (they do). Date is unknown when they developed them. Ozia still uses nuclear power but under tight regulations and safety measures.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Myroria on October 14, 2014, 09:28:40 PM
1966: Two inexperienced engineers working at Llarynirovth Nuclear Reprocessing Station outside Ivorheart, Myroria cause a criticality accident. Both die.

1969: Traval Power Plant accident. An experimental reactor inside a cavern outside Traval suffers a partial core meltdown after a loss-of-coolant accident. The cavern is sealed and reactor abandoned. News overshadowed by political turmoil in Pelagis.

1979: Moose River Nuclear Plant accident in the remote County Traval township of T19R3 NSBM*. Partial core meltdown leads to release of radioactive steam and gas. New regulations on the nuclear power industry are passed, but Fredrika and the Imperial government reaffirm their commitment to nuclear power. Despite dire predictions of a cancer epidemic in the area, only a statistically nonsignificant increase of thyroid cancer rates is reported. The Moose River accident remains the most serious nuclear incident in Myrorian history.

With a renewed focus on wind and solar power in the 21st century, the number of Myrorian nuclear plants gradually begins to decline as they reach the end of their working lives and are decommissioned.

Most Myrorian nuclear waste is transported to the interior of Nouve Resdaynia for disposal. Though no transport ships have been lost at sea yet, activists push for the industry to find a better way to dispose of waste.

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Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Bustos on December 04, 2014, 06:47:12 AM
Is this RP still active?
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Delfos on December 04, 2014, 07:42:20 AM
I want it to be, yes.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Bustos on December 04, 2014, 06:09:21 PM
As it seems I am the only country that sells nuclear materials and equipment I thought maybe I could get in on the RP somehow.  Maybe sending inspectors on the dismantling or perhaps buying any of the used equipment and remaining nuclear materials.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: St Oz on December 04, 2014, 06:13:17 PM
Wouldn't we have an international committee regulating nuclear materials and equipment trade?
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Bustos on December 04, 2014, 06:26:04 PM
Aren't you presuming I'd follow such regulations or even be an actual member of said committee?  Also where is this said committee in the RP?

A few of notes about Bustian culture and trade:

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Civil freedoms are very highly regarded.  This has led many laws to have either been abolished or to never come into effect. Drugs laws, prostitution laws, weapon laws, gambling laws, traffic laws, even business and environmental regulations are nonexistent.

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Without a strong economy, the Allied States would not be where it is today.  As a capitalist, free market, business owners can run their businesses as they see fit.

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  None of our exports are considered illegal and thus are sold openly.  We hold no responsibility for private persons bringing in Bustian exports considered illegal in foreign markets.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Myroria on December 04, 2014, 06:53:34 PM
We generally presume such committees exist because there is little or no reason to RP all these conferences when there are other stories we could tell that are more meaningful.

If you are not a member of this committee, that is your prerogative.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: St Oz on December 04, 2014, 06:57:03 PM
Also sole-exporter =/= sole-manufacturer. A lot of nations do not allow nuclear materials, oil, or other resources to be exported.

Other things to note, we have a lot of empty space on the map, I'd assume other countries export nuclear materials, and also nuclear materials are found everywhere, it's 40x more common than silver and 500x more common than gold.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Khem on December 04, 2014, 06:58:33 PM
Or imported for that matter.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Bustos on December 04, 2014, 07:02:30 PM
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We generally presume such committees exist because there is little or no reason to RP all these conferences when there are other stories we could tell that are more meaningful.

Good point.  However I was more referring to said committee's involvement in the dismantling of the power plant, assuming Delfos is a part of this committee or has invited it to be involved in whichever way.

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If you are not a member of this committee, that is your prerogative.

Correct.  My point in this case was the presumption I was part of said committee or was bound in any way to abide by it.

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Also sole-exporter =/= sole-manufacturer. A lot of nations do not allow nuclear materials, oil, or other resources to be exported.
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Or imported for that matter.

Simple answer, black market.  Simply because you do not allow, does not mean it doesn't happen.  But I digress, I am simply trying to see, as currently the only OPEN dealer of nuclear materials and equipment, how I may enter the RP.

I am not trying to be argumentative, simply trying to add to a story line.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Eluvatar on December 04, 2014, 07:14:45 PM
Eluvatar almost certainly has a nuclear industry.

There would have been some small accidents in the beginning of the nuclear industry in Eluvatar, but probably no major calamities.

I'm thinking on July 2nd, 1961, a uranium cartridge in one of Eluvatar's older plutonium production reactors in Bennland catches fire, eventually catching eleven tons of Uranium on fire and releasing a quanitity of radioactive iodine, caesium, and xenon which is estimated to have led to an additional 230 cancer cases in and around Eluvatar. A review of the incident showed that the installation of filters in the air-cooling chimneys, nicknamed "Gepein's folly" by the staff, was responsible for preventing a much greater release of radioactive isotopes into the air.

Eluvatar continues to operate nuclear reactors to the 'present' day.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Delfos on December 04, 2014, 10:01:45 PM
Please plan here if you want to RP in Geioshu/Delfingrado.

Negotiations with foreign companies are pertinent in Chapter 2 Part 1. Even if I do RP ahead, you can always RP in part 1, plan here.

You may want to try to sell in Delfingrado both the building and the dismantling of nuclear facilities. It is possible maybe later after this RP that Honto tries to build a new nuclear power plant just like the Japanese Government is doing, backstabbing what they promised, but either way, it's not something for this Geioshu RP specifically.

Meetings in Delfingrado will have 3 levels:
The most common meetings will happen between the Energy Council of Ministers (or Energy Council for short) that represent the ministries of all New Delfos and energy companies from anywhere in Taijitu.
There will be the Council of Ministers themselves, and then there is the Council of New Delfos. Mind when you're in Delfingrado, you're meeting with everybody from all over New Delfos, not just Geioshu (an island)/Honto (a region/state).

Mind Geioshu (local) government made a deal with Denryoku Energy Company but that means NOTHING to the Honto (regional) Government (it should), later they will claim the Council of Ministers or any other central (national) government made pressure on them to accept the most economically sound proposal. So pressure away :P

To be easier to RP with different people, Chapter 2 Part 1 is in another topic:
http://forum.taijitu.org/modern-national-role-play/delfingrado-energy-council/
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Bustos on December 04, 2014, 11:34:26 PM
So I should continue in the Chapter 2?
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Delfos on December 04, 2014, 11:58:39 PM
Negotiations between energy companies and the government, yes you should RP on that other topic. Part 1 of the second chapter is all about those negotiations and whichever pre-agreement or decision is made about the Geioshu Power Plant's phase-out. Since youre first post is not a direct negotiation, it's ok. I reserved Chapter 1 for story building.
Chapter 2 Part 1: http://forum.taijitu.org/modern-national-role-play/delfingrado-energy-council/msg147776/#new

The other parts of the RP are more ethnographic and are less pertinent for relationship with foreign energy companies. If you do want to RP on the other parts as well go ahead. There's plenty of things to RP about, anti-nuclear movement, politics, normal folk living in Geioshu.
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Bustos on December 24, 2014, 05:12:22 AM
Who do we need to contact to express interest in being involved in the talks?
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Delfos on December 24, 2014, 08:07:38 AM
Ok this will take some time to explain. You have already contacted and been contacted about the nuclear plant, your company already has been selected for a hearing and project presentation, and your company will have a hearing with the Energy Council, go right ahead and RP the hearing here (link) (http://forum.taijitu.org/modern-national-role-play/delfingrado-energy-council/), but I suggest you read this awfully long explanation. This is a council of "energy" ministers of the different regions of New Delfos which can be perceived as a federation-like union of states which became 5 regions (5 ministers):
(http://i.imgur.com/rQUATUw.jpg)
Airanzu Minister of Energy is Minister Kawasaki - he will try to favor Denryoku Energy Company but will ultimately go for a consensus option together with Delpho.
Boyen Minister Gurevich - has strong ties in Sbbasburg, he'll go for the cheapest and fastest approach.
Kazjko Minister Uzakbai Karabalin - This guys barely care.
Mahara  Minister Hamid Chitchian - Mahara's Light is one of the strongest Energy Companies in New Delfos, this Minister is pretty much paid to defend Mahara's Light.
Delpho Minister Esteves - will go for the cheapest approach.

You can read about Minister Kawasaki and Ryo Kurokawa in this 1st post (link) (http://forum.taijitu.org/modern-national-role-play/geioshu-nuclear-power-complex/)

Later on, after the hearings, that part of the RP will focus on the Parliamentary Energy Commission. The Energy Council will present the conclusion of the hearings to the parliament (a "What needs to be done" document), the Parliamentary Energy Commission will then meet to discuss changes or approval, specially parameters of the project - and this is another place for your involvement bc your company can skew the parameters in their favor. This parliament is like the European Union parliament, each elected Member and nominated for the Energy Commission will have consultants which and, disregarding conflict of interests, the consultants are paid by large companies (or have direct ties with said companies) to sell their fish so the members of parliament defend business. Your Company can try to buy their way in, we will discuss this further after the hearings. The Parliament vote will determine the parameters of the project, in other words, the project will be molded to be awarded to a specific company - cashing :2c:.

Denryoku Energy Company has a "safe" entombment and long conversion plan, it's certainly not the cheapest and certainly not the fastest, but they can guarantee many things that matter, such as alternative fuel/green energy projects in Ryoshi Island (where Gyoson and Geioshu are) and convert the work force.

Mahara's Light will do everything to get this project, they have the money, the experts, and they want to set foot in Denryoku's backyard, so they are prepared to make it cheap and shiny, but likely not as cheap as foreign companies.

Anyway, taking that in mind, you're going to defend a project to the Energy Council they will have their consultants and/or Ministry staff so about 5x3 people in the room but the hearing is not public, they can have multiple options, you may opt to focus only on the phase-out program, only part of it where you make agreements with other companies, the matter here is that you defend there should be a specific project/program that your company is the best equipped to deal with. Have at it, talk about phase-outs in your country if you want to build your own history here, it's problems, what fixed them, what are the long-term maintenance arrangements your company does, whatever you want.

 :idk: sorry, too much info O:-)
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Bustos on December 24, 2014, 05:12:32 PM
Awesome, this is very helpful!
Title: Re: Nuclear Power
Post by: Bustos on December 24, 2014, 11:36:39 PM
Well, I certainly learned a lot about nuclear power today.    :D