Baltija has been banned

[Zimmerwald]

Or perhaps a meteor falls out of the sky and hits Baltija, forming a gigantic crater that stops at the borders of Myroria and Eluvatar and magically doesn't effect anyone else.

[Sovereign Dixie]

Heh, Baltija may be gone... but his godmodding is alive and well i see

[Feniexia]

Ok...I just started a space programm...so let me demonstrate my spaceforce^^

But what have he said? I still don´t really got it....

[Durnia]

I can't say that I shall miss him.

[Amy]

It would appear that Bal is merrily spreading crap about me on The Lex forum....any Lexies reading this...yes, I have seen what is being said, and you can all go to hell with your lies.

Even better...just leave NS. None of you....Cath, John, Bal....none of you belong around children. None of you deserve any right to have access to NS. If the only thing any of you can do with your time is make up lies about me, then I feel deeply sorry for you. Actually....no...no I don't!

[Romanar]

I can't say I'm surprised.  Baltija has shown a bad attitude since he came here.  His latest actions, showing IRC logs and claiming that Taijitu is run by tyrants, is just more of the same.

[Zimmerwald]

"X is banned" threads back in the Lex, especially duing IP's second term and after, invariably turned into massive hatefests, with most slandering the banned person, a few voices reminding certain people of Banned Rights.  Now, I don't want to see that happen in Taijitu. 

We're more mature than that.

[Myroria]

invariably turned into massive hatefests, with most slandering the banned person

I completely agree with you.

BALTIJA SLEPT WITH HIS MOM!

[Bustos]

Well for one, his NS nation is "Greater Baltija" so technically he is a citizen.

And as a citizen, how can he appeal when his IP is banned from accessing the forums, much less the Court forum to make such an appeal if he so desired?

I support my friend, in and out of RP, in this matter.  I personally have issues surrounding his banning and more in particular with Amy's probable involvement, she has turned me away from the fun of the Games forum (the beginning of where everything started, imo).

I know Baltija, or even myself, are not generally well-liked as we are not the most diplomatic of people, but I strongly feel that there was a lot of personal bias involved especially from Amy's end and power thumping (I've been threaten by her twice, via PM, for posting in the Games froum, maintaining my number 1 poster slot).  Even though I am not a senator, (yet hopefully), I would like to see the review process concerning his banishment.

EDIT:  He also informed me if possible, that I am given his land if I wanted it.  I would hope to think that before anyone touches his land, that he at least been given time, if so desired, to make his appeal.  That if and when he does, the land remains his pending the final decision of the court.

[Durnia]

I would hope that if he telegrammed the Delegate because he is the authority (or a Judge if we have one?) then he could set the wheels of motion in place for a review. Then Eluvatar could play around with his mask so he could see the Court forums.

[Bustos]

The last time I talked to him, he wasnt even aware he COULD appeal his banning, much less even try to.  As a citizen, I believe he should have been informed of his options via TG once banished.  This might be something that should be included in the banning procedures, should in case another citizen become banned at a later date.

[Amy]

Baltija was being discussed and watched by the Founders since his stunt many days ago that involved tricking a new member of the region into thinking he was in charge of the army.

Baltija has also repeatedly copied things from this forum and taken them over to The Lexicon's forum, as well as IRC logs, *after* he was told that in order to copy them, he would need permission from those who had been involved in the conversations. He ignored this.

If Baltija wishes to appeal his banning, he can. But I would like to remind everyone of the mountain of evidence against him, including screenshots of him copying info over to The Lex. If he really wanted to be apart of this region, copying information is the last thing he would have done.

If anyone else is found to be copying information at all or posting IRC logs without the permission of those involved in them, action will be taken about them. Baltija's banning was not based on the events of one evening, rather a list of events for which he was being watched and discussed long before this incident.

[Romanar]

I agree with Bustos that Baltija should be informed of his right to appeal, though frankly, I think his problems go beyond his somewhat abrasive manner.

[Gulliver]

Much as Baltija irks me... I will have to agree. If he indeed did maintain the nation of Greater Baltija within Taijitu then he is indeed a citizen. Damning as the evidence against him may be at this point, he is entitled to a trial and to be informed of his rights. This of course is all sloppy, as this was an event which occurred a bit earlier than it ought to have (what with no court existing yet), but the rights enumerated within the Constitution must be uphold, lest we slide from the rule of law into that say-so-ism we've so reviled previously.

Me thinks that I must also consider drawing up better procedures for this in the future...

So if he has not been informed of his rights, then I shall have to ask that he is, and that some kind of court be drawn together to rule on this matter.

[Flemingovia]

I do not actually see how Balitija could bring himself to appeal.

As a loyal and true Lexiconian he must believe that, whatever the laws and constitution of the region, it remains in essence the playground of the founder, and that whatever the founder does is right.

Therefore, should he be tempted to appeal, he would be forced to overrule himself.

It's a bugger, but there you go.