Taijitu
Government of Taijitu => The Ecclesia => Legislative and Treaty Votes => Topic started by: Gulliver on December 15, 2014, 02:38:35 PM
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This is a runoff between the top two contenders for the original vote (http://forum.taijitu.org/legislative-and-treaty-votes/regional-motto/) on the regional motto. This vote will also last for 5 days.
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rematch
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Lindisfarne's vote is: None of the above.
I move that all votes should have this choice in the future, in our opinion a basic right in all democratic legislatures.
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Lindisfarne's vote is: None of the above.
I move that all votes should have this choice in the future, in our opinion a basic right in all democratic legislatures.
seconded
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Lindisfarne's vote is: None of the above.
I move that all votes should have this choice in the future, in our opinion a basic right in all democratic legislatures.
seconded
Third.
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"Reopen nominations" was an option for the initial vote to narrow it down to the top two. Only 1 person out of 16 voted for it, so it didn't make it to the runoff.
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If we used Condorcet this wouldn't be an issue, everyone.
Just saying
Just saying
Just saying
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hahahaha, in this situation it might make sense, not in a Delegate election.
Just saying
Just saying
Just saying
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It makes perfect sense in this situation: we didn't have an option with an outright majority in the initial vote, so we've narrowed it down to two so that one of them'll be guaranteed to have a majority at the end of a vote, barring a tie. That said I'll add an "abstain" option for people who want to explicitly show that they're deferring to participate in the vote in the same way, as Bustos put it, you might submit a blank ballot at an election.
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I pledge to propose to reopen the selection of a new Regional Motto in case Abstain wins, in which case we can also discuss the election method of them Mottos and which Mottos shall be taken to the polls.
Therefore I campaign, Please:
Abstain
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Agreed.
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You already had that option.
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I agree that this is an example of why to support a condorcet vote system.
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I pledge to propose to reopen the selection of a new Regional Motto in case Abstain wins, in which case we can also discuss the election method of them Mottos and which Mottos shall be taken to the polls.
Therefore I campaign, Please:
Abstain
As Funkadelia pointed out, you had this option in the last election and it wasn't chosen so it was removed. That's how a runoff works. Why are you loudly advocating this now instead of weeks ago when we were discussing the mottos to begin with?
This sort of demagoguery is exactly what cripples a direct democracy.
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I pledge to propose to reopen the selection of a new Regional Motto in case Abstain wins, in which case we can also discuss the election method of them Mottos and which Mottos shall be taken to the polls.
Therefore I campaign, Please:
Abstain
As Funkadelia pointed out, you had this option in the last election and it wasn't chosen so it was removed. That's how a runoff works. Why are you loudly advocating this now instead of weeks ago when we were discussing the mottos to begin with?
This sort of demagoguery is exactly what cripples a direct democracy.
I loudly advocate whatever I think is right and you have no moral authority over what is campaigned. If we think we need to change it, we will change it.
What cripples this democracy is your autocratic attitudes and prejudices, what cripples democracy is the concentration of power and a ruling class, what cripples democracy is what you try to elude others with your skewed notion of democracy. The Revolution was not done, you have halted the revolution and roam this region back to a retrograde bureaucratic republic.
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Then change it. Propose the sweeping reform you desire and get it to pass the legislature. I am a private citizen. I hold exactly as much "power" as you do.
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I pledge to propose to reopen the selection of a new Regional Motto in case Abstain wins, in which case we can also discuss the election method of them Mottos and which Mottos shall be taken to the polls.
Therefore I campaign, Please:
Abstain
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You tempt me with this french motto, but I think the the second is more direct and appropriate to the principles of the region.
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This argument is dumb, even by my standards.
Sometimes I wish you were trolling delfos.
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I pledge to propose to reopen the selection of a new Regional Motto in case Abstain wins, in which case we can also discuss the election method of them Mottos and which Mottos shall be taken to the polls.
Therefore I campaign, Please:
Abstain
As Funkadelia pointed out, you had this option in the last election and it wasn't chosen so it was removed. That's how a runoff works. Why are you loudly advocating this now instead of weeks ago when we were discussing the mottos to begin with?
This sort of demagoguery is exactly what cripples a direct democracy.
I loudly advocate whatever I think is right and you have no moral authority over what is campaigned. If we think we need to change it, we will change it.
What cripples this democracy is your autocratic attitudes and prejudices, what cripples democracy is the concentration of power and a ruling class, what cripples democracy is what you try to elude others with your skewed notion of democracy. The Revolution was not done, you have halted the revolution and roam this region back to a retrograde bureaucratic republic.
* slams head repeatedly on desk *
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I pledge to propose to reopen the selection of a new Regional Motto in case Abstain wins, in which case we can also discuss the election method of them Mottos and which Mottos shall be taken to the polls.
Therefore I campaign, Please:
Abstain
As Funkadelia pointed out, you had this option in the last election and it wasn't chosen so it was removed. That's how a runoff works. Why are you loudly advocating this now instead of weeks ago when we were discussing the mottos to begin with?
This sort of demagoguery is exactly what cripples a direct democracy.
I loudly advocate whatever I think is right and you have no moral authority over what is campaigned. If we think we need to change it, we will change it.
What cripples this democracy is your autocratic attitudes and prejudices, what cripples democracy is the concentration of power and a ruling class, what cripples democracy is what you try to elude others with your skewed notion of democracy. The Revolution was not done, you have halted the revolution and roam this region back to a retrograde bureaucratic republic.
I, for one, would welcome Myroria as the Taijitu autocrat, but I don't think that will happen anytime soon.
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I think we can all agree the only true autocrat in Taijitu can be the fickle, iron, resplendent will of the people.
Also Aniane.
Also Eluvatar.
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I pledge to propose to reopen the selection of a new Regional Motto in case Abstain wins, in which case we can also discuss the election method of them Mottos and which Mottos shall be taken to the polls.
Therefore I campaign, Please:
Abstain
I couldn't agree more.
As Funkadelia pointed out, you had this option in the last election and it wasn't chosen so it was removed. That's how a runoff works. Why are you loudly advocating this now instead of weeks ago when we were discussing the mottos to begin with?
This sort of demagoguery is exactly what cripples a direct democracy.
I loudly advocate whatever I think is right and you have no moral authority over what is campaigned. If we think we need to change it, we will change it.
What cripples this democracy is your autocratic attitudes and prejudices, what cripples democracy is the concentration of power and a ruling class, what cripples democracy is what you try to elude others with your skewed notion of democracy. The Revolution was not done, you have halted the revolution and roam this region back to a retrograde bureaucratic republic.
I, for one, would welcome Myroria as the Taijitu autocrat, but I don't think that will happen anytime soon.
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I think we can all agree the only true autocrat in Taijitu can be the fickle, iron, resplendent will of the people.
Also Aniane.
Also Eluvatar.
Yes we can agree :tai:
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if voting changed anything it'd be illegal amirite? lelelelellelelelelelelel
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-insert hyperbole-
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The vote has closed, and it appears that "Voulez-vous donc qu'on vous fasse des révolutions à l'eau-rose?" ("Do you think, then, that revolutions are made with rose water?") has won.