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Forum Meta => Archive => General Discussion Archive => Topic started by: Bara on July 02, 2007, 12:21:21 AM
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Alright, i was wondering this, like Pirates vs. Ninjas, i wanted to know who would win a fight, a Viking or a Spartan.
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Vikings, because Spartans lack discipline.
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that can come the same way towards vikings, the berserk weren't that much disciplined were they? :p , and the Spartans are one of the basis of the Greek army,
Although they lived in different ages, the vikings have weaponry superiority, Spartans don't really have anything that jumps in the eye, this recent movie called 300 isn't worth for anything, gets bellow Apocalyptic in my action chart :p I was expecting more blood and saw nothing but a guy yelling at very ugly guys with piercings, what kind of Persian army was that? plus what wicked mind would think Xerxes was a 3mt tall black person filled with piercings and chains?
1 viking vs 1 spartan, vikings wins for weaponry superiority
allot of vikings vs allot of spartans, same thing and tactically the vikings are more advanced too.
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Well, if you think about it, if the Spartans used the phalanx in a good spot, and the Vikings charged, the Spartans could win.
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Well, the vikings would know when not to fight so, no the spartans wouldn't win, they would only stand there cheated on a battle while the vikings sailed around them and had fun with their women and looting any riches in time to get away agian before the spartans could run back. Then the spartans would definitely have no chance of catching them since a galley will never out-sail a longship, especially not up-wind.
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Gah! You make me choose?! Fine then. Cookie first...
Vikings, like Delfos said, lived 1000+ years later, thus giving them a technological advantage. Plus, though the phlanx was the best infantry tactic of its time, it only had to deal with archers, spears, swords, and the occasional chariot. Because of the time change, now have to deal with more advanced forms of the same group of weapons. Pikes, longer swords, heavily armoured cavalry, war axes, and advances in bow craftsmanship and technology. Spartans lived during the Bronze age, giving them weapons of great quality, but when compared to the refined iron weapons of the Vikings, there would be no contest.
Again, Spartans made up the best infantry of the Greeks, they weren't renowned for their naval power. Though the Greeks were a great naval power, more so were the Vikings. The Greeks had their triremes, which could only go up to 6 knots with 300 rowers. The Viking longboat was much more agile, allowing them to conduct surprise raids anywhere.
So Vikings win, hands down. OWNED, my friend.
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Well, the vikings would know when not to fight so, no the spartans wouldn't win, they would only stand there cheated on a battle while the vikings sailed around them and had fun with their women and looting any riches in time to get away agian before the spartans could run back. Then the spartans would definitely have no chance of catching them since a galley will never out-sail a longship, especially not up-wind.
:clap:
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correction, Greeks didn't had a great naval power, they got claimed so after having a famous 'no name' sea battle. Against 3 empires (If my memory isn't failing) they won in awesome luck, and they got claimed being the best by defeating the best, which were the phoenicians. I think the 3 empires were Phoenicians, Tartessians, and that one that was later the nation of Hannibal. Same goes for the British, which weren't the best naval force on the seas when they were claimed (until now?) the greatest naval power, after defeating the Armada Invencível, from Spain. Lucky for the English the Spanish couldn't handle the best ships in the world ::) made by the Portuguese. Plus the English had tactical supremacy. Anyway we must respect those 'tittles', because it's like a world cup, Italy is the best because it won the last world cup, and that's it.
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You're full of crap Delfos,
Actually the Spanish Armada had the tactical supremacy (They used a cresent moon shape formation), but God hated them, so they were blown away in a storm. End of story.
P.S The Greeks also beat the Persians.
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Actually, it was an unavoidable navigational error on the spanish side plus lousy timing that sunk the spanish armada, they didn't know about the north atlantic gulf stram
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Vikings have cool hats pillage their weasely black guts out.
For. The. Win.
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I'll admit I know almost nothing about Vikings and even less about Spartans. Although I'm against Vikings for much the same reasons that I'm against pirates, they do indeed have awesome hats. So, yay for Vikings!
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Ummm, one VERY important thing though, NO viking has EVER worn horned helmets. Though they wouldn't be above using the horns of anyone stupid enough to wear one as handles when they chop their heads off.
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i agree with ^.
But as a side note, i asked this question to my Buddy's, and most of them said the Spartans would win because of there Armour, and the Vikings wore almost no amour.
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and spartans did? and how would spartan armor hold viking weapons that were mostly blunt? I doubt spartans had fancy armors, don't forget the heat of it. I tell you a story about a missing Portuguese king, he gone to Africa fighting and he was inexperienced, they had to loose their armor because of the heat, probably why they got killed or captured. That's shown in Kingdom of Heavens. Spartans didn't wear more armor than the vikings, plus they are in different climate zones.
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Good point, but i say that Vikings would probly win, after all, they are preety cool.. and they do have a lot of advangte over them.
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Vikings also had war mammoths, which history proves the Spartans were no match for in Stalingrad.
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Vikings also had war mammoths, which history proves the Spartans were no match for in Stalingrad.
What are war mammoths?
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What are war mammoths?
Unstoppable.
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so, is she saying beserkers?
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No, he is saying war mammoths. Check wikipedia. ;)
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i got nothing on it
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Heh, he's probably not using wikipedia 2.
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Probably not, indeed. Bara, you should get the upgraded version. It's a downloadable encyclopedia program. ;)
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/me shakes head...
Not again, Soly...
Bara- As for the lack of armour, that was only an elite group called berserkers, using a tactic called, roughly translated, berserkergang. They would literally go into a frenzy chopping and killing anything that moved. They didn't wear any armor for some reason I don't know, perhaps to enhance the adrenaline effect that helped them not feel any pain. Spartans did wear armour, just breastplates made of bronze, likely overlapping for movement.
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Vikings. Both sides are manly but Vikings' gods and heaven were the main influence for Pha and Phahalla, it's heaven. Plus the Vikings are pirates, and pirates kick ass.
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Heh, he's probably not using wikipedia 2.
Probably not, indeed. Bara, you should get the upgraded version. It's a downloadable encyclopedia program. ;)
im sorta not allowed to download things any more with out my dads permisson..
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The word viking is actually a scandinavian curse-word from the mid 8th century that means pirate. The scandinavians that went to the southwest were mainly danish, still a very barbaric people O:-)
Norwegian scandinavians were mainly quite civilized colonists and traders, likewise was Swedish scandinavians back then. The so called vikings wore a very varied equipment due to the fact that it was their own and thus they could most often not afford any fancier stuff than soft and/or studded leather armours if they had any at all. Some probably wore thick wool as a sort of protection too but the richest (cheiftains and their sons) might have worn ringmail or even scale or chainmail.
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i found something instering about the vikings i never knew before. They had calvary.
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Yes, but they only rode TO the battle, they never rode IN battle.
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i know, but i never knew that before.
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How cool is that? I can be a pirate AND a viking? Okay, okay, they didn't really wear those horned helmets, but I want one anyway!
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so its settled right? vikings win? and khab, is is sorta my therad so I'm the captain! (yey!)
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Far be it from me to try to take over here, Bara, this is absolutely your thing. I just want to wear a horned helmet and come along for the ride. Pretty please? With sugar on top?
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ok, you can come. BUT, yyou must make us cookies. Alright men, borad the long ship! Were off!
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Why do these threads always end up like this?
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You betcha!
Soly - because?
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Soly, they end up like this becuse they just do. deal with it.
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Aww, Soly's just bummed because I grabbed the hat he wanted. Here, Soly, I'll share. You can have it on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. I'll take it on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. We'll arm wrestle for the Sundays.
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What did this thread ever do to you people? :'(
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umm soly, i have a lot of hats for everynoe..
*gives soly a hat*
"Alright soly, you get to be my first mate!"
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Yay, Bara! Now that's a diplomatic viking.
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Your mate? But you didn't even get me a ring!
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"Khab, set a course to Russia. We have some raiding to do."
"And soly, its just a term."
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So that's what I mean to you now, just a term!
/me storms off with his hands in the air.
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Dude, im a dude.. and your a dude... jeez.
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So now you're being sexist? Sheesh!
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Oh my god...
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(http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/imslow.gif)
I think I'm going to like this viking thing.
But wait... one of you experts is going to have to tell us what we're supposed to call the head viking! Captain just doesn't sound right.
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Högstamannen?
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What, and you expect me to actually remember how to TYPE that thing? Maybe I'll just call him Big Hairy Bara. That sounds meaty enough for a viking guy.
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note: i think i can Trace my roots to vikings in ireland.
Call me Barak the Great. Now, everybody row!
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Barak as in the bearguy from the Belgariad?
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no, thats my nickname/ Viking name on this fourm.
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Now that Barak was cool. And definitely a manly-man. Not to mention hairy.
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And big, don't forget big.
Barak, you have a lot to live up to. Good luck and may other big hairy men be there to support you, metaphorically or not.
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ummmmm.....Ok.
Alright, now ROW OR NO COOKIES!!!
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Ever heard of sailing, Barak?
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Yes i have.. now shut up and do sailing and rowing!
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Okay, should I be sailing or rowing? Or making cookies? I get confused, you know.
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make cookiees and while there bakeing, row.
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Looks like the old biceps are going to get a workout. Okay, then.
Row row row your boat...
Gently down the stream...
Merrily merrily merrily merrily...
Life is but a...
What do you MEAN that's not a fit Viking rowing song? What, we're not SUPPOSED to be merry? Well dang it. Okay, okay.
Rock the boat...
Don't rock the boat baby...
Rock the boat...
Don't tip the over...
Hey, it was good enough for the M&M guys.
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We're a band of vicious pirates
A-sailin' out to sea.
When you hear our gentle singing...
You'll be sure to turn and flee!
(Oh, this is just ridiculous.)
Come on, men! We've got to recover that map!
That pirate will be done for,
when he falls into our trap!
We're a club of tuneful rovers!
We can sing in every clef!
We can even hit the high notes!
It's just too bad we're tone deaf!
A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!
Let's go defeat that evil pirate!
We know he's sure to lose,
'cause we know just where to fire at!
We're thieving balladeers.
A gang of cutthroat mugs.
To fight us off ye don't need guns!
Just jolly good ear-plugs.
A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!
All right, crew, let's get to work!
Our vocation's a thing we love
A thing we'd never shirk!
We'll fight you in the harbor.
We'll battle you on land.
But when you meet singing pirates...
They'll be more than you can stand.
Oh! That was a good one!
No, it wasn't.
No time for song! We've got to move!
The battle will be long,
But our courage we will prove!
We're a pack of scurvy seadogs
Have we pity? Not a dram
We all eat roasted garlic
Then sing from the diaphragm.
A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!
Less singing, more sailing.
When we defeat our wicked foe,
His ship he will be bailing!
If ye try ta fight us
You will get a nasty whackin'!
If ya disrespect our singin'
We will feed ya to a kraken!
A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!
I'm getting so sick of you guys and your rhyming.
We're ready to set sail,
though the cannons need a-priming.
We're troublesome corsairs!
And we've come to steal your treasures!
We would shoot you on the downbeat
But we have to rest five measures.
A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!
Stop! Stop! Stop!
The brass is what we'll polish
And the deck is what we'll mop.
You say you're nasty pirates...
Scheming, thieving, bad bushwhackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates! You're just slackers!
A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!
We'll surely avoid scurvy if we all eat an orange.
And...!
...um...
Well...
...err...
Door hinge?
No, no...
Guess the song's over, then.
Guess so.
Hokay, back to work.
Well gee.
I feel a little guilty, now...
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"LAND HO!"
*Takes a quick headcount of crew members*
"umm...there is 3, including me... i think we can win!"
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Okay, okay, they didn't really wear those horned helmets, but I want one anyway!
SECOND.
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"Come aboard then! we now have 4 vikings, including me!"
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"Alas, my shipboard duties with the pirates'll keep me from joinin' yer crew. Sorry it is to say it, I am."
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"Ah... well... crap"
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Aye, but Vikings BE Pirates, from a different age. Which be why I be joining.
*takes out War axe*
Let's PILLAGE!!
Yaharr!
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I like talmanns spirit!
AH SHORE MEN/WOMEN!!! FISRT ONE THAT REACHES THE LOOT GETS HALF OF IT!!!
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Ooh, ooh! Found our theme song!
Volga Boatsmen Song
Yo, heave ho! Yo, heave ho!
Once more, once again, still once more.
Now we fell the stout birch tree,
Now we pull hard: one, two, three.
Ay-da, da, ay-da!
Ay-da, da, ay-da!
Now we fell the stout birch tree
Yo, heave ho!
Hey, hey, let's heave a-long the way
to the sun we sing our song
Yo, heave ho! Yo, heave ho!
Once more, once again, still once more.
As the barges float along,
To the sun we sing our song.
Ay-da, da, ay-da!
Ay-da, da, ay-da!
To the sun we sing our song.
Hey, hey, let's heave a-long the way
to the sun we sing our song
Yo, heave ho! Yo, heave ho!
Once more, once again, still once more.
Volga, Volga our pride,
Mighty stream so deep and wide.
Ay-da, da, ay-da!
Ay-da, da, ay-da!
Mighty stream so deep and wide.
Volga, Volga you're our pride.
And πa pycckb|!
Эй, ухнем!
Эй, ухнем!
Ещё разик, ещё раз!
Разовьем мы bерёзу,
Разовьем мы кудряву!
Ай-да, да ай-да, ай-да, да ай-да,
Разовьем мы кудряву.
Мы по bережку идем,
Песню солнышку поём.
Ай-да, да ай-да, ай-да, да ай-да,
Песню солнышку поём.
Эй, эй, тяни канат сильней!
Песню солнышку поём.
Эй, ухнем!
Эй, ухнем!
Ещё разик, ещё раз!
Эх ты, Волга, мать-река,
Широка и глубока,
Ай-да, да ай-да, ай-да, да ай-да,
Волга, Волга, мать-река,
Эй, ухнем!
Эй, ухнем!
Еще разик, еще раз!
Эй, ухнем!
Эй, ухнем!
OOC: Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Volga_Boatmen%27s_Song"
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For the scottish vikings among us... PLAY THE BAG PIPES!!!!!!
*leaps off the boat onto the shore with the rest of his crew with him*
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Hey, Bara, is it too late to join the crew? I brought my own hat. Screw historical accuracy!
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To any scotsman who wishes aboard, ye must say this:
Yo-ho, yo-hey,
The Bagpipes, I'll never play.
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the boat always open, hop on!
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Khab the Scary drags a huge bag o' cookies along with her.
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"FIRE THE COOKIE CATAPULT!!!!"
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Khab loads the ammunition, steps back, and yells "FIIIIIIIIRE IN THE HOLE!!!"
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*Watches as the cookies bater the emneys walls*
"Fire agian!"
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Khab the Not-So-Hairy brings out the good stuff. Pfefferneuse, hard as rocks! And piles them high. "FIIIIIIIIRE!!!"
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"THE WALLS ARE DOWN!!!!!!!! ATACK!!!!!"
*Leads his band into the citys walls, attacking the defenderrs*
"Khab, fire those cookies!"
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Khab the Horned-Helmet-Wearer grabs the Mighty Cookie Shooter out of her belt and starts lobbing cookies at the enemy.
"Take that, ya fur-challenged cretins!"
"Yer mother wears combat boots!"
"Yer ugly and yer mama dresses ya funny!"
"Ye ain't got a hair on yer hoohah!"
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"Good work Khab, we have captured the port! START PLUNDERING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Khab the Plunder-ful shouts a loud "WOOT!!!" and proceeds to get with the pillagin'.
"I have dibs on the chocolate!!!"
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Khab the the Scary, Not-So-Hairy,the Horned-Helmet-Wearer,the Plunder-ful, you better not be touching the choclte coverd gold baras that are mine...
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Well drat. But but but... Oh alright. *siiiiiigh*
...gives up the ones in her pocket...
...then the ones she snuck into her boot...
...and the ones in her plunder sack...
There. That's it. Really. What do you MEAN where's the rest of it? Would I be that sneaky?
Oh dang it.
...then takes off her helmet and dumps all those out. And stalks away, muttering under her breath.
Big hairy male, taking my hard-earned plunder. Oughta slip some laxative into 'is brownies next time, see if I don't.
Whaaaaat? Me? I didn't say nothin'...
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Go.........Chicago Bulls! err........ the Jordan&Pippen team I mean. ???
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Yer mother was a hamster, and yer father smelt of elderberry!/me takes lots and lots of shiny metal things, not to mention more weaponry.
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Larry the Meek arrives at the scene to find that his fellow Vikings have already taken everything that isn't nailed down.
"Well, only one thing to do now."
Larry proceeds to take everything that is nailed down.
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"Alright men, back to the longship for cookies and milk! and yes khab, you can have 2 of my gold bars"
*Hands Khab 2 gold bars*