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Title: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: ChineseCheese on September 20, 2007, 08:11:22 PM
Okay.  I would like everybody's take on these three subjects.  I personally have no literal diestic belief, and I believe everyone who does is either really stupid or a PUSSY.  I say pussy because some people have to have the idea of a parent figure up there watching them in order to keep going---it's a fear thing.  People don't have confidence in themselves so they rely on a mythical "god" that tells them what to do and guides them.  I believe all those with a literal deistic belief in God, Satan, Vishnu, Alla or Zues are stupid.  Just my opinion.  I believe the universe is based on energy.  The bible is all mythology in my opinion.  The creation story is just as dumb as the one the ancient greeks had, or the native americans, not that I think native americans are dumb. 

However, LaVeyan Satanism, that is, the philosophy (not religion) laid out by John LaVey in the "Satanic Bible" in 1969, is quite interesting.  No, LaVey did not worship satan, for that is gay.  LaVeyan Satanists are basically aetheists who have no faith in humanity, and use "satan" as a METAPHOR FOR HUMAN NATURE.  LaVeyan Satanism isn't at all about being cruel to others, either.  THey believe it is MOST appropriate to love those near and dear to you.  They just use their religion to live out their feeling WITHOUT thinking it's a sin.  They think christianity is bullshit.  So basically, they are pessimists in rebellion against christianity.  That's why they where the cross upside down.  A common example they use is the principle "turn the other cheek".  If some guy smashed a bottle in my sister's face, I'm supposed to turn the other cheek?  Fuck that.  I would be after his ass.  I am not a LaVeyan satanist, by the way, I just think its interesting.

Now, onto the next subject:  Metal.  I love metal.  It is the best music in the world.  Be it Death Metal, Thrash Metal, Power Metal, Viking Metal, Doom Metal, Black Metal, whatever, I am into alot of it.  I find liberation in metal...the ferocity...the brutality...the emotion...It's quite astounding.  You know, Chuck Shuldiner, lead guitarist and singer/songwriter of Death, on of the first death metal bands, was an animal lover and a wonderful man.  He was kind and generous, and gave to charity on a regular basis.  He was an idealist, and yet, he was a DEATH METAL GURU!!!  He died of throat cancer in the 90's.  RIP, chuck, I miss you...  See, the whole "gore" thing is symbolic.  It's something very few people understand.

Now onto the last subject:  Meatballs.  I love meatballs, especially swedish meatballs.  They are awesome. :-P
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Ess on September 20, 2007, 08:24:04 PM
Mmmm...  meatballs! 

(http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9189/meatballsmlq1.jpg)

Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Delfos on September 20, 2007, 08:26:07 PM
 :h:
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: ChineseCheese on September 20, 2007, 10:10:29 PM
These are not exactly the responses I was looking for, but its all good.  I will add a poll to this topic.
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Delfos on September 20, 2007, 10:23:45 PM
I listen to anything, including Nordic metal. I don't really like the variants from USA seems more like meanless trash, but Nordic ones are normally of very high quality.
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: ChineseCheese on September 20, 2007, 10:35:46 PM
That's cool.  What about pornogrind, ROFL?
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: verak on September 21, 2007, 12:17:24 AM
I'm a devout Christian who attends mass every Sunday

However the Church of Satan is actually pretty interesting and many of its philosophies on human nature are quite true.

I (HEART) Metal music! My favourite band is Rammstein, but I love all forms of metal.

I hate meatballs (unless it's an Asianized form of it)
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Myroria on September 21, 2007, 12:19:13 AM
Metal mostly sucks. Rammstein is, in my opinion, the only good metal band. All these dumb ones here, Mettalica, etc...They suck.

But I'm more of a psychadelic rock man anyway.

"Lime and limpid green, a second scene..."

And I'm an athiest. LaVeyanism is in no way "atheism". Atheism believes in the absense of deities, including Satan. Therefore, since it worships Satan, it's not atheist. Even if LaVey was athiest, not Satanist, his church is, which does not make it atheist.
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: verak on September 21, 2007, 12:28:53 AM
I think the Church of Satan makes it clear that they do not worship any theistic Satan, but rather use Satan as a symbolic term for human nature and desires.

EDIT: But I agree Rammstein is awesome!

Links zwo drei vear..  :D
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Delfos on September 21, 2007, 01:22:17 AM
and Dimmu Borgir?
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Myroria on September 21, 2007, 12:06:27 PM
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Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: ChineseCheese on September 21, 2007, 01:33:15 PM
Yes LaVeyan Satanists DO NOT WORSHIP SATAN.  Definately not, and you would know that if you knew anything about LaVey, Satanism, or if you simply read my first post.  It's all good though.

ROFL I got warned on Nationstates for racist jokes......
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Myroria on September 21, 2007, 01:47:47 PM
You have good points. Perhaps you would like to join the Church of Pha, Taijitu's largest [parody] religion?
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: ChineseCheese on September 21, 2007, 04:23:27 PM
Sure thing.
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Govindia on September 21, 2007, 07:52:47 PM
I'm a hindu, I like meatballs, and yes I listen to metal, amongst other things :panda:
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: verak on September 21, 2007, 08:15:03 PM
are you actually Chinese,  Chinesecheese?
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Eientei on September 22, 2007, 03:29:18 AM
(I'm gay)
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Allama on September 25, 2007, 02:38:06 PM
I never get tired of seeing so many posters on forums use "gay" as an insult and make blanket statements about other people's beliefs being stupid; it's ever so enlightened.  ^_^





P.S. Meatballs are disgusting unless you make them out of turkey or chicken.  ;)
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Delfos on September 25, 2007, 03:22:36 PM
i bet you feel the same way about sausages...
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Allama on September 25, 2007, 04:35:46 PM
I bet you're correct... also, sausages must be spicy else they're not worth the time of day.
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Myroria on September 25, 2007, 07:07:22 PM
Quote
I never get tired of seeing so many posters on forums use "gay" as an insult and make blanket statements about other people's beliefs being stupid; it's ever so enlightened.  ^_^

Hear hear.
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Nightloser on September 25, 2007, 09:24:21 PM
No, yes, yes ... i'm christian orthodox, i listen to various music but mainly metal, and yes, i love meatballs :D
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Delfos on September 25, 2007, 09:44:20 PM
i thought everyone would ignore that...oh well
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Algerianbania on September 26, 2007, 05:44:00 AM
P.S. Meatballs are disgusting unless you make them out of turkey or chicken.  ;)

*Gasps in disbelief.
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Allama on September 26, 2007, 12:01:49 PM
P.S. Meatballs are disgusting unless you make them out of turkey or chicken.  ;)

*Gasps in disbelief.

I know, I know... blasphemy.  ;D
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Huma on September 26, 2007, 04:34:42 PM
I'm a Protestant Christian. I don't find myself weak because I tend to think that it takes a sort of strength to entrust your life, actions, and well being, into the hands of something you can neither see nor feel in any conventional way. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs though, I wouldn't call anyone gay or stupid personally and I personally find LaVey Satanism is contradictory in some aspects. Maybe I'm misreading it, I know I could be wrong :D.

Not a huge metal fan, I tend to listen to emo when I need something emotionally charged.

Meatballs are awesome, unless their cafeteria meatballs, in which case I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole. I personally think that it is impossible to make a meatball out of chicken!
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Allama on September 26, 2007, 04:45:49 PM
Meatballs are awesome, unless their cafeteria meatballs, in which case I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole. I personally think that it is impossible to make a meatball out of chicken!

Oh, it's very easy.  Simply substitute ground chicken for beef in whatever recipe you use; they sell it in most US grocery stores.  Swedish meatballs are most especially delicious when made that way. ;)
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Huma on September 26, 2007, 04:55:46 PM
what evil is this?! I pray that my God shall smite thee and your chicken meatballs

(I've actually had them that way in the past, it tastes like a regular meatball)
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Ess on September 26, 2007, 05:35:02 PM
P.S. Meatballs are disgusting unless you make them out of turkey or chicken.  ;)

*Gasps in disbelief.

Hey!  It's not like she said Panda meat...

O:-)
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Nightloser on September 26, 2007, 10:01:44 PM
You're right Ess. Though that would have been entertaining... :D:D:D
Title: Re: Satanism, Metal, Meatballs...
Post by: Algerianbania on September 27, 2007, 02:22:54 AM
No I it won't.

*Sulks in corner.