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Forum Meta => Archive => General Discussion Archive => Topic started by: Delfos on December 09, 2007, 03:36:07 PM
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I had the idea for this discussion yesterday or whenever I saw an ugly accident during the Super-G in Aspen, Colorado.
The track was already difficult, after snowing, there were very tricky parts. Still allot of athletes risked to complete the track.
There was an accident on the same track with an Austrian athlete, after watching the track degrading the Austrian team told all their athletes to call off the race, very wise decision if you ask me, I wouldn't risk my athletes' lives for glory.
After this call, a French Athlete, Anne-Sophie Barthet (lovely name), only 19 years old, very promising career, being entitled world champion of juniors already, suffered a very ugly accident.
http://www.youtube.com/v/CMpK7drvnfY&rel=1
It's not the best angle, I've seen it in EuroSport, you could see her leg hanging out after twisting all over.
If the accident with the Austrian athlete was already serious, she twisted her ankle, probably the end of her career, imagine the bad luck of this French athlete, so young and promising...
Anyway, the referees should have canceled the race way before, yet, only after this accident and the weather getting worse that they canceled.
News link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071208/sp_afp/skiworldwomen_071208225307)
Quem não arrisca, não petisca (Who doesn't risk, doesn't *win*, Portuguese for: No pain, no gain.)
Would you risk it for glory?
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I'm assuming by glory, you mean fame; so no. I strive to be the best at everything I do, but I care little about being famous or glorified that way.
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No. Could also go onto better things later. But its great with hind-sight!
But they are driven to win and compete, that's why they are the best athletes!
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im a coward. i wouldn't do it.
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yes without thinking about it
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I'm assuming by glory, you mean fame; so no. I strive to be the best at everything I do, but I care little about being famous or glorified that way.
not exactly, glory is for yourself to glorify, not masses, and isn't exactly for your self that is glorified, but the achievement. This is what athletes fight so hard, to achieve the impossible...
Although westernized popular sense would say that's fame, alright, whatever you want to believe in.
This is not risking your life to be famous, this is risking your life to achieve something amasing, in their view, Super-G, downhill, alpine-skiing, winter-sport, Olympic game achievement.
Like when the Portuguese passed the Tormentor Cape, or when the Russians put a radio in space, or when the Russians put a living animal in space, or when the Russians put a human being in space, or when the Americans put a human being in the moon.
As an athlete you can achieve your best performance, and glory of being the best of the best, no other human being is better than you, that's not fame...that's playing god, that's achieving glory.
Let me put you in the exact scenario:
If you knew that track was tricky now more than ever, and that the Austrians (one of the best in Alpine Skiing) had pulled off all their athletes, would you risk it?
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Let me put you in the exact scenario:
If you knew that track was tricky now more than ever, and that the Austrians (one of the best in Alpine Skiing) had pulled off all their athletes, would you risk it?
if you put it that way no doubt i would want to show my best when the conditions are the worst is just a new challenge
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Let me put you in the exact scenario:
If you knew that track was tricky now more than ever, and that the Austrians (one of the best in Alpine Skiing) had pulled off all their athletes, would you risk it?
if you put it that way no doubt i would want to show my best when the conditions are the worst is just a new challenge
I agree partly with you. Another new challenge to overcome - their competitive nature coming through to really be the best! But there must be a limit and thats what the coaches are there to say when that limit has been reached.
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Nah...I think I'd of just sat at the top of the hill and felt that it was glorious...but I don't have a strong competitive tilt to my personality.
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Let me put you in the exact scenario:
If you knew that track was tricky now more than ever, and that the Austrians (one of the best in Alpine Skiing) had pulled off all their athletes, would you risk it?
if you put it that way no doubt i would want to show my best when the conditions are the worst is just a new challenge
I agree partly with you. Another new challenge to overcome - their competitive nature coming through to really be the best! But there must be a limit and thats what the coaches are there to say when that limit has been reached.
when i am in that mode there is no getting me outta it i am doing it i am easy going unless there is competition or something everyone is telling me that i cant do it i have to prove them wrong
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you know the risks of alpine skiing, don't you? Uncontrolled jump, a ticket for a flight down at 90kmh...probably the end of you.
I wouldn't risk my life nor my body for anything like that, I think I'm more useful alive, even if everybody hates me.
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i dont hate you.
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:wb: thank you Bara, but that was hypothetical, I'm pretty fine with my life, everyone can have something better but, that's life.
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i like my life.
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good, at your age, having 2nd thoughts can be deadly, not only to yourself.
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yeah...im not emo...even thought there is a lot of goths in my school...its werid...
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Thats life, full of diversity!
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you know the risks of alpine skiing, don't you? Uncontrolled jump, a ticket for a flight down at 90kmh...probably the end of you.
I wouldn't risk my life nor my body for anything like that, I think I'm more useful alive, even if everybody hates me.
yes i do but if i dedicated my life to this sport why wouldnt i want to go for it. i would never pass up a chance to make my mark on the sport i love. and no it i would think that is survivable if the crazies that race bikes can lay it down and be ok a wipe out is doable maybe in bad shape but still alive and eventually be back to fighting form
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you know the risks of alpine skiing, don't you? Uncontrolled jump, a ticket for a flight down at 90kmh...probably the end of you.
I wouldn't risk my life nor my body for anything like that, I think I'm more useful alive, even if everybody hates me.
yes i do but if i dedicated my life to this sport why wouldnt i want to go for it. i would never pass up a chance to make my mark on the sport i love. and no it i would think that is survivable if the crazies that race bikes can lay it down and be ok a wipe out is doable maybe in bad shape but still alive and eventually be back to fighting form
Well, would you climb Everest during blizzard periods? It's the same thing. It's very glorifying climbing to the top of the Everest, but doing it in such harsh conditions is practically suicide. In my opinion, if you want to dedicate your life to something, specially a sport, you wouldn't risk dieing for it...
oh well, dieing is just another stage, without minding our involvement with the society, friends and stuff like that, there's nothing to hold me in life, if I die, what should I care about how, I'm dead.
But this isn't sure death, it's "risk for glory", or "be safe", if you risk it you can achieve glory, or death, or for the poor lovely name french girl, without excluding the Austrian one, very ugly injuries.
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I would risk myself for glory, but not in the way this thread has thus far discussed. I care nothing for achievements along the lines of athletic feats or other achievements that gain the admiration of others* and would not risk myself for such a fleeting thing, but I care very much for the personal glory of making a difference in this world. If I had an opportunity to do something great to truly have a positive effect in the lives of others, I would risk losing everything I have, my possessions, my body, my mind... if the goal is honestly worth it, risk is nothing to run from.
*I know you mentioned doing things like running races and all that for personal glory, but the fact is athletics usually make you feel glorified by being the best or beating the achievements of other people, thereby involving others in your sense of glory whether or not you are doing it for fame.
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you should never give up your soul. No, I'm too lazy to give up everything, and I won't risk loosing the people I love.
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im too lazy to do anything.
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Except bludgeon us over the head with bad grammar and scat.
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:h:
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Except bludgeon us over the head with bad grammar and scat.
Hey, thats makes me tired!
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Except bludgeon us over the head with bad grammar and scat.
Hey, thats makes me tired!
Beddy-Bye time!
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its only 3:46 PM...