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Title: overcrowd China
Post by: Delfos on September 27, 2007, 05:24:56 PM
Came across this video, see it all please:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=v5QLZ4oj_6A

fantastic isn't it?
China was already overcrowded, now it's more, where is it going? lol
What should we do about it? War? Birth Control? A-Bomb?

1,320,811,000 - Estimate from 2007 - 19.8% of the World's Population - Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Ess on September 27, 2007, 06:16:30 PM
The Chinese women's army is bigger than the population of the US!   :o

Holy Crap!
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Huma on September 27, 2007, 08:30:25 PM
10 years the U.S. will be in China's dust and we'll no longer be a super power
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Of Crazed on September 27, 2007, 09:32:57 PM
I dont care if I am number 1 or 2.  2 is a good number to be.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Union on September 28, 2007, 12:25:31 AM
I just hope the government is still running those sterilization projects...overpopulation is nasty stuff for any country.

Even with the one child law, the population of PRC is still growing at a few million a year, minus total death numbers. These people are gonna need places to leave, and with China running our of room, they're gonna move into other countries. Prepare for a new Chinese Era!
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: mantorman on September 28, 2007, 02:32:34 AM
Good music on that China thing i wonder what would win? our virtual army put in in the real world or their... probably theirs...YOU DECIDE! man i hate those commercial where you have to "decide"
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Delfos on September 28, 2007, 09:26:46 AM
it already started, Chinese invasion in Europe and Africa is in full scale, I'm afraid some day they will be challenging the amount of population of each country.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Tacolicious on September 28, 2007, 04:05:38 PM
Yeah, world = screwed.

Thankfully the Chinese have a great respect for individual rights and the environment... right?   :-\

Well, at least the US military isn't squandered resources and manpower while spreading itself too thin... right?  :(

WW3 is going to be interesting... someone is going to be left to tell the story... right?  :'(
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Union on September 28, 2007, 04:19:36 PM
cantonese chow mein = yummy

Don't worry Taco, hopefully we get invaded by aliens from another star some time soon, and the invasion will force every nation on earth to band together and unite into a United Earth government!
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Tacolicious on September 28, 2007, 04:22:14 PM
Why do I get the feeling that if invading aliens attack:

One: That's our only hope for working things out here
Two: Instead of the United Earth Government, we'll be the United Earth Menu
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Allama on September 28, 2007, 04:32:56 PM
Alien attack = unified world, eh?

How much do you want to bet people will do nothing but argue on who to ally themselves with and how to go about it until the day they defeat us and we're all slaves?

[/cynicism]

Anyway, I couldn't hear the audio but the video still managed to make quite the impression on me... almost 325,000,000 in the Women's Army alone... gracious.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Delfos on September 28, 2007, 07:45:24 PM
omg! the audio was the heart of the video!!! please get to hear it. lol very well done if you ask me. Impressive is the discipline this guys *couf* girls have. Specially when multiplyed by thousands. I guess they could invade allot of countries just with female force...LOL!!! Send females to Zimbabwe please!
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Union on September 29, 2007, 01:17:43 AM
In case anyone didn't realize it, the number they gave us was the number of eligible females available for military service. Arming and training them is something else.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Gecko1 on September 29, 2007, 02:01:23 AM
Remember the Chinese border dispute with Russia, lined their soldiers three men deep on the entire disputed area, hell any invading army would run out of ammo before the Chinese run out of men (and women).
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Aquatoria on September 29, 2007, 02:20:08 AM
We discussed what a superpower is in rp. China has a long way to go before it can become a superpower. It has to get it's economy a little bit better.  If anyone in the world is next to being a superpower it would be the European Union. Once the EU becomes more united (as in the creation of a united European military), then the EU will become the next superpower
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Tacolicious on September 29, 2007, 02:34:35 AM
Sometimes economy and innovation take a back seat to raw people power, that's what kept the Russians going so long... well, that and harsh winters.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: verak on September 29, 2007, 07:03:22 AM
whoa whoa,  not sure if it was mentioned here

but the Chinese women's army isn't an actual army or anything. that's just the amount of females who are eligible for military service. in reality the whole Chinese military is in the 2 millions, and is actually shrinking in size since the Chinese gov't wants to make a more elite force.

but damn, those Chinese babes in uniforms are hawt  :wb:

Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: JALbatross on September 29, 2007, 07:05:17 AM
EU's economy has been growing at a slower clip than the US's for quite some time now.  By the time they federalize they'll have been left behind.  China's obvious overpopulation problems, currency manipulation, and general growing pains when transitioning from a command economy into a free market (does the CCP even want to go free market anyway?) will catch up with them.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Delfos on September 29, 2007, 08:44:17 AM
We discussed what a superpower is in rp. China has a long way to go before it can become a superpower. It has to get it's economy a little bit better.  If anyone in the world is next to being a superpower it would be the European Union. Once the EU becomes more united (as in the creation of a united European military), then the EU will become the next superpower

more united? united european military? lol no thanks. EU cannot be a superpower because it's not a state. The countries are independent, and we have superpowers as far as i know.

China's Economy is in 2nd last time i heard. I would bet it's a superpower.

EU's economy has been growing at a slower clip than the US's for quite some time now.  By the time they federalize they'll have been left behind.  China's obvious overpopulation problems, currency manipulation, and general growing pains when transitioning from a command economy into a free market (does the CCP even want to go free market anyway?) will catch up with them.

federalize EU? man where do you guys come with this. EU's economy has been growing faster than US's, that's why we are catching up. It would be antagonic to grow slower and catching up.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Tacolicious on September 29, 2007, 02:47:54 PM
You think that's bad Delfos, I keep hearing about the plans to unify the Canadian and US economies into one, and maybe bring Mexico into the fold as well. As a Canadian this horrifies me, it's like someone suggesting you go to the dance with the fat, funny smelling, sweaty kid that nobody likes but who nobody can get rid of.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: mantorman on September 29, 2007, 03:25:59 PM
Hey i didnt know you were canadian! :D
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Tacolicious on September 29, 2007, 03:49:24 PM
Hey i didnt know you were canadian! :D

You learn something new everyday
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Union on September 29, 2007, 06:19:53 PM
EU's economy has been growing at a slower clip than the US's for quite some time now.  By the time they federalize they'll have been left behind.  China's obvious overpopulation problems, currency manipulation, and general growing pains when transitioning from a command economy into a free market (does the CCP even want to go free market anyway?) will catch up with them.

PRC is already a free market....lol. It's now the Capitalist Chinese Party. I'm sure they have to flip Mao's body every time it rolls in his glass case  :D.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Gecko1 on September 29, 2007, 11:04:38 PM
The only thing communist about China is how it keeps dissidents quiet.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Aquatoria on September 29, 2007, 11:15:59 PM
For what Taco said. I have heard of that. It's called the North American Union. Now hears the problem with the creation of such a union, there is only one regional power in NA and it happens to be the sole superpower. The creation of the NAU will destroy the Canadian and Mexican ways of life because such a union will force American ideals on them. The ultimate Manifest Destiny. No if Canada were to join such a union, it would join the EU if the EU allows Commonwealth nations join.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Prydania on September 29, 2007, 11:33:31 PM
I would rather Canada not join the EU or a North American Union. Both would detrimental to our sovereignty.
I would like to see the UK pull out of the EU, and help strengthen the British Commonwealth. Let that serve as our primary economic alliance.

A North American Union is just a thinly failed plan to incorporate Canada into the American Union. We fought a war to stay out of it, damn it! I would rather we not abandon our history, culture, and sovereignty to appease a dream Yankees can't seem to get out of their heads.
We don't want to join your Union, stop bringing it up!
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Gecko1 on September 29, 2007, 11:40:28 PM
Yes, Yes, Yesssssssssss. Sorry antipatriotic American in the vicinity. Still they need that same nationalism in Latin America but Hugo's gonna do that pretty quick.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Aquatoria on September 29, 2007, 11:49:05 PM
If the Commonwealth turnes into more than it is like a defensive alliance instead of a trade and immigration alliance, then people might think the British Empire has returned. Which isn't that bad. I wish that I could live under the Empire like my grandparents before me. God Save the Queen!
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Gulliver on September 29, 2007, 11:52:03 PM
Most Americans would probably echo the same sort of objections to any sort of North American Union. Just look at how they freak out over Mexican immigrants.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Prydania on September 29, 2007, 11:53:26 PM
If the Commonwealth turnes into more than it is like a defensive alliance instead of a trade and immigration alliance, then people might think the British Empire has returned. Which isn't that bad. I wish that I could live under the Empire like my grandparents before me. God Save the Queen!
Here here! I would prefer a strong defence/economic alliance between the Commonwealth nations to the EU, NAFTA, North American Union, or even NATO. 

Most Americans would probably echo the same sort of objections to any sort of North American Union. Just look at how they freak out over Mexican immigrants.
Maybe with Mexico, but America has historically always had an eye on Canada.
Of the three North American nations, which one is pushing the hardest for this to happen? The good old US of A.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Gecko1 on September 30, 2007, 12:34:47 AM
Ooh Ooh then we could elect a new "world leader" and call him Big Brother.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Prydania on September 30, 2007, 12:41:56 AM
Ooh Ooh then we could elect a new "world leader" and call him Big Brother.
BIG BROTHER is
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Bankimoon07052007.jpg)
WATCHING YOU
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Tacolicious on September 30, 2007, 03:24:42 AM
Big Brother is Watching You...
(http://www.jokesunlimited.com/funny_halloween_costumes/large/toilet.jpg)
EVERYWHERE!
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: mantorman on September 30, 2007, 03:37:05 AM
yes, because he s in the future where humans are used as toilets!!!!!
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Myroria on September 30, 2007, 03:43:25 AM
This has got me thinking.

Are there comedians in Oceania? If the people can't have orgasms, can they laugh?
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Khem on September 30, 2007, 09:40:34 AM
If the Commonwealth turnes into more than it is like a defensive alliance instead of a trade and immigration alliance, then people might think the British Empire has returned. Which isn't that bad. I wish that I could live under the Empire like my grandparents before me. God Save the Queen!
Here here! I would prefer a strong defence/economic alliance between the Commonwealth nations to the EU, NAFTA, North American Union, or even NATO. 

Most Americans would probably echo the same sort of objections to any sort of North American Union. Just look at how they freak out over Mexican immigrants.
Maybe with Mexico, but America has historically always had an eye on Canada.
Of the three North American nations, which one is pushing the hardest for this to happen? The good old US of A.
meh if anything it will be cool to finaly get the second american civil war started so new england can finaly become a part of canada (over 75% of the people i have asked about this support the idea) and the south can finaly do whatever it was they wanted to do and well hollywood could hold onto the west coast until china invades and makes them think twice about who is the bad ass of the world.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Delfos on September 30, 2007, 10:55:19 AM
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I would rather Canada not join the EU or a North American Union. Both would detrimental to our sovereignty.
I would like to see the UK pull out of the EU, and help strengthen the British Commonwealth. Let that serve as our primary economic alliance.
Oh look, something we can agree! Either full integration or step out of it, being in the middle of it only makes things worse...for the rest of us.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Prydania on September 30, 2007, 09:11:57 PM
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I would rather Canada not join the EU or a North American Union. Both would detrimental to our sovereignty.
I would like to see the UK pull out of the EU, and help strengthen the British Commonwealth. Let that serve as our primary economic alliance.
Oh look, something we can agree! Either full integration or step out of it, being in the middle of it only makes things worse...for the rest of us.
Great Britain has always considered themselves separate from the rest of Europe, so I don't see why they should be a part of the EU. Most Britons agree with me on this actually.
If the EU wants to go to the Euro, cool. Britain opted not to go that route, and that was a wise choice, but if I were calling the shots in Britain the Euro plan would have been the last straw. Why they're still part of the EU is beyond me.

Again, strengthen the British Commonwealth, let that serve as Britain's economic and defencive union.
Oh, and disband NATO. Since the USSR's collapse it's grown more and more irrelevant.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Myroria on September 30, 2007, 09:27:48 PM
The EU is a negative thing, in my mind. The repeated laws its enacting on its member nations, such as the whole forced-energy-saving-lightbulbs thing, would really get on my nerves if I lived there. Sure, the euro is zomgthebestcurrencyever now, but wait a couple of decades for inflation to set in. That's how it works with any other currency, just because the euro has a good exchange rate now doesn't mean it always will.
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: Delfos on September 30, 2007, 10:28:23 PM
that's where we part from the rest, we are smart, well educated and culturally advanced, one of the main reasons we have faith in Euro. Britain is in EU for the sake of it. They are Europeans, some of them think it's the right thing to be in, most of the rural workers say "Hey, let the EU continue flood us with their money.", others say they should have Euro, but apart from any other country in Europe the students do not wish to learn any other culture, any other language and see immigration a big problem, and EU is helping this problem to grow. It's the kind of conservative protectionist ideals England have been defending for centuries since the initiation of their national identity.

I would say most of the ideals have passed through other colonies, the ones you are talking about. The rest of Europe is quite distinctive, we like diversification, multi-cultural identity of EU...we like to open frontiers, we like to help others, we like to help ourselves. The rest of Europe isn't ecofreak, it's just cooperating with what have been established way before this whole Al Gore thing, Al Gore is just important to many of us because he really tries to pass the message to Americans, but what the hell, they rather make the climate worse, i wouldn't care if we weren't living in the same world.

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forced-energy-saving-lightbulbs
:h: no one is forcing me, i still use some normal lightbulbs, oh but wait, they give us free forced-energy-saving-lightbulbs at the supermarket...why should i waste money in something that is worse than the ones they offer? do Americans like to waste energy on purpose? by your argument, it sure seems so. Maybe you should look at USA budget to see other wastes...maybe yours taxes would go down...who knows.

So sure, lets talk about China. Desertification = Rural Exodus = + Desertification = Unbalanced-workforce-between-rural/metropolitan-areas = + Rural Exodus = + Desertification = + Cheap-Labor = Cheap-Industries = pollution = + Cheap-Energy-sources = + pollution = + Desertification = +Rural Exodus. They are millions and have million kilometers of fertile land, but this multiplication divided by the millions give huge problems. There's sand storms in metropolitan areas originated in former-agricultural areas. I'm not sure if there's laws against the 'bad' or 'evil' exploitation of the land making it sterile or if there's rules upon industries about not polluting the lands of any sort, or even if there's protective laws on agricultural areas. If there are all that judicial matter it doesn't seem to be in effect. Is there a problem with the Chinese Law? or is there a problem with Chinese Industry? Will this affect the Chinese Population numbers?(for the worse or better?)
Title: Re: overcrowd China
Post by: verak on October 01, 2007, 06:58:01 PM
Heres another Chinese video lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-N4VeWTlec

Made by someone I know