Berkeley Recruiting Station

[Bara]

i hate these kind of conversations.

[Meridianland]

And meridianland, hippies already teach. Most teachers who teach liberal art are ex-hippies who participated in the previous anti-war movement and now teach students anti-war movements work even though there has never been a successful anti-war movement in US History.

Xy, that's pretty much a  caricature, which is kinda funny if you were shooting for comedy, but it's not really true and it's way far away from what I was talking about.

Imagine how much we would have saved in the last five years if the Bush Administration hadn't been all FOREIGN IMPERIALIST ADVENTURE YIPPIE-KI-YAY on us.

But we would also all be drivig a lot lot less. 

[Myroria]

Delfos, most kids don't know what a communist is. I'm surprised I didn't have to explain it to you, honestly.

[kor]

I'm for pulling out of Iraq, but recalling all foreign-based troops seems a little extreme.

No, what's extreme is the $1 Trillion we spend a year on keeping our troops in foreign lands. This kind of spending is one of the reasons the USD is on the verge of collapse. Now that the Dow Jones fell by 500 points earlier today it's pretty much guaranteed to do just that. 

[Of Crazed]

I hate everything about this shit.  It's not like the army forces people by gun point to enlist in our armed forces.  The people protesting have the right to protest, but it gets crazy when they just demand that the city back them up.  The Marines are doing their job which is hard enough as it is.  It is not like they decide if they go to Iraq or not, these people defend the freedom of speach that the Berkeley use.

What is more sad is that how politics is a land of extreams, you are for or opposed, no middle ground.  Yes, I'm not a fan of the Iraq war and think leaving is an option, but on the same hand I don't feel instant withdrawl is the right answer.  What is not the right answer is insulting the jobs of people who risk their own lives to protect you.  The least you can do is respect that.  They risk their lives to keep you safe.  These people have more courage then myself.

Also no one should deny that Marines kill, it is their job, but to start blaming them for Iraq is absurd.

[Bara]

I hate everything about this shit.  It's not like the army forces people by gun point to enlist in our armed forces.  The people protesting have the right to protest, but it gets crazy when they just demand that the city back them up.  The Marines are doing their job which is hard enough as it is.  It is not like they decide if they go to Iraq or not, these people defend the freedom of speach that the Berkeley use.

What is more sad is that how politics is a land of extreams, you are for or opposed, no middle ground.  Yes, I'm not a fan of the Iraq war and think leaving is an option, but on the same hand I don't feel instant withdrawl is the right answer.  What is not the right answer is insulting the jobs of people who risk their own lives to protect you.  The least you can do is respect that.  They risk their lives to keep you safe.  These people have more courage then myself.

Also no one should deny that Marines kill, it is their job, but to start blaming them for Iraq is absurd.

*extends his arm*

come on, give me a high five.

[kor]

I hate everything about this shit.  It's not like the army forces people by gun point to enlist in our armed forces.  The people protesting have the right to protest, but it gets crazy when they just demand that the city back them up.  The Marines are doing their job which is hard enough as it is.  It is not like they decide if they go to Iraq or not, these people defend the freedom of speach that the Berkeley use.

What is more sad is that how politics is a land of extreams, you are for or opposed, no middle ground.  Yes, I'm not a fan of the Iraq war and think leaving is an option, but on the same hand I don't feel instant withdrawl is the right answer.  What is not the right answer is insulting the jobs of people who risk their own lives to protect you.  The least you can do is respect that.  They risk their lives to keep you safe.  These people have more courage then myself.

Also no one should deny that Marines kill, it is their job, but to start blaming them for Iraq is absurd.

1. Special Services(The Draft) 
2. How are they protecting us by being in Iraq?
3. Who blamed the Marines for Iraq?

[Of Crazed]

1. There is not a draft.
2. By keeping the region stable(as possible) .  I know we cause the distability but, I do believe they are protecting us in the Armed Forces.
3.  Just the tone of this thread seemed to be going that way.  No one said that, but I felt the tone was going that way.  If no one said that, my statment still stands .

[Delfos]

well I do think they're entitled to recruit whoever they want, but as many things in life, people that don't know what they want will get utterly influenced by some propaganda, hey even I thought for a week or so to join the 6months contract with our armed forces, there's very nice stuff, money is one, more access to services is another, like health, army men is first, civilians have to wait in the line...lol, damn propaganda.

[kor]

1. There is not a draft.
2. By keeping the region stable(as possible) .  I know we cause the distability but, I do believe they are protecting us in the Armed Forces.
3.  Just the tone of this thread seemed to be going that way.  No one said that, but I felt the tone was going that way.  If no one said that, my statment still stands .

1. Think again friend. It was reinstated a few years ago. They can start one anytime they want to.
2. Wouldn't they better protect us if they were within our own borders?
3. If it went that direction, I'd be one of the first to try to stop that. You can't blame the troops for our administrations mistakes.

[Of Crazed]

1. Explain
2. I don't have experience to agree or disagree.
3. Good

[kor]

Well you see Congress in their almighty wisdom gave G.W. the right to start what are called "back door" drafts. These include the Medical Personnel draft which would draft doctors, nurses, and other medical staff. There's also a draft much like the standard draft of days gone. The only difference is some of the people that were exempt back in the day are no longer exempt.  I.E. College students and only sons. Also the age limit was increased from 35 to 45 years old.

[Mahasoor]

Awesome.  ):

[Meridianland]

There's not a draft like there was in Vietnam. 

The back-door draft happens when people get more time attached to their tours of duty.  It happens alot to National Guards, but it can happen to people in any branch of service and it sucks alot.

Just another reason not to believe the lies that military recruiters tell people.

[The Empire]

A better idea would be to not belive the lies fed out by big media and your own administration in the first place...