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Title: Adulthood
Post by: Allama on January 08, 2008, 08:24:56 PM
The early- and mid-20's are an interesting time, to me: you more-or-less know who you are and have the "teen identity crisis" solved to the point where you're comfortable with both the lasting and ever-changing parts of yourself, but now you have to go off on your own and test drive that adult self.

I've considered myself to be an adult for a year and a half, counting time spent living alone and self-sufficient "for real", college dorms and whatnot excluded.  Do you guys think time spent in college is adulthood if you do it right out of high school and still have some degree of parental support, or does it only "count" if you do it completely by yourself?

Personally, I think the college experience is, for most people in the culture with which I'm familiar, adulthood with training wheels.  You learn to dictate your own schedule to an extent, some students start paying their own bills, and you have to care for your physical and mental wellbeing without (as much) parental guidance.  Many students take another step forward by going from a dormitory to an apartment at some point in their college career, forcing them to shop for groceries, cook, and clean for themselves considerably more than they had to previously.

Odd as it may seem, I feel that not having completed a four-year stint at uni. kick-started my growth into a fully-functioning "grown-up" as I began to live alone and take care of myself with little to no outside interference just after turning 20.  (This is not, of course, intended to devalue formal education; I quite desire to go back as soon as I am able.)

Pardon my musings; I've gone on long enough.  What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 09, 2008, 12:15:33 AM
you know, adding to this, what about teenagers? when do we finally be seen as mature in adults eyes?

when do we stop have to worrying about been harrsed by other stundets.  i tell you, that can really hurt you, and lower your self esteem. (when a damn 6th garder syas that he loses IQ when you sit next to him, and trys t shove you out, how would you feel, and no smart ass comments from you, prag)
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: kor on January 09, 2008, 02:08:17 AM
Adulthood sucks. Responsibility sucks even more. I will sum up adulthood. Go to work; come home. Pay some bills. Lather, rinse, repeat. :-\


Oh and if you're really lucky, you find someone that can stand you for more than ten minutes; you get married and start a family.
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Really it all depends on your experience in college. Many students go through college and never really grow up until their last 2 years there. For me personally I didn't go to college until I was 20. Being in the Peace Corps and traveling the world helped me become an adult very quickly. Although even if I had just gone to college I think the same would've happened. When I did start attending I had to pay my own way. Maintaining a job and school at the same time is really hard. I think that would have propelled me to adulthood quickly. So, really it's about what you experience that makes you mature into an adult. Personally, I think those that don't attend college have to face the reality of being an adult much sooner.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bender1968 on January 09, 2008, 02:35:58 AM
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you know, adding to this, what about teenagers? when do we finally be seen as mature in adults eyes?

Teens are never mature in adult eyes.

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when do we stop have to worrying about been harrsed by other stundets.  i tell you, that can really hurt you, and lower your self esteem. (when a damn 6th garder syas that he loses IQ when you sit next to him, and trys t shove you out, how would you feel, and no smart ass comments from you, prag)

It goes from students to co-workers, the good news is you realize that you don't have to take it and when you stand up to someone they back down quick.

Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Delfos on January 09, 2008, 02:04:25 PM
You are whatever you think you are. We can't say you're an adult...the "lasting and ever-changing parts of yourself" seem to be a physical evidence, and I sure look for "adult" women (instead of girl) by those parts.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Allama on January 09, 2008, 04:17:57 PM
Quote from: Korinn on January 09, 2008, 02:08:17 AM
Really it all depends on your experience in college. Many students go through college and never really grow up until their last 2 years there... So, really it's about what you experience that makes you mature into an adult. Personally, I think those that don't attend college have to face the reality of being an adult much sooner.

I certainly agree.  When you're a full-time student (even one working a bit while studying) who has gone straight from living with parents to living in a dorm and receives support, you simply haven't faced the full gauntlet of adult challenges the way someone who left home to work or go abroad between high school and college would have, or someone who is doing it 100% on their own even right out of high school.

One could, of course, argue that neither has one who has not been married, had kids, etc., but let's leave that argument for later as I just want to address the issue of self-reliance.

Quote from: Delfos on January 09, 2008, 02:04:25 PM
the "lasting and ever-changing parts of yourself" seem to be a physical evidence, and I sure look for "adult" women (instead of girl) by those parts.

That's not what I meant: I mean the changing parts of your self.  The body is nearly irrelevant.  The core of who you are may remain very stable throughout your adult life, but many of the attendant parts (such as your outlook and personality) will inevitably continue to evolve.  You are not likely to be the same person at 60 that you are at 25; life changes you.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Eientei on January 09, 2008, 05:09:28 PM
College is a lot like living between childhood and adulthood.  "Adulthood with training wheels" is a great analogy.  Of course, the college experience can differ depending on whether you have to work throughout to pay tuition, room and board or not.  I managed to get a cushy job at the university library through the school's work-study program, though.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Delfos on January 09, 2008, 05:11:32 PM
yes but it goes both ways :p
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Of Crazed on January 09, 2008, 07:26:57 PM
Let me just say I'll need the training wheels.  That's not to say I am also an irresponsible person, just no where near being a responsible.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Allama on January 09, 2008, 07:34:47 PM
Quote from: Of Crazed (MoA) on January 09, 2008, 07:26:57 PM
Let me just say I'll need the training wheels.  That's not to say I am also an irresponsible person, just no where near being a responsible.

In other words, you're normal.  :)  I'm very glad to have had 3 semesters of training wheels, myself; it straightened out a lot of crap for me that would have gotten in the way had I gone straight into the workforce from high school.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: kor on January 10, 2008, 01:53:34 AM
Quote from: Of Crazed (MoA) on January 09, 2008, 07:26:57 PM
Let me just say I'll need the training wheels.  That's not to say I am also an irresponsible person, just no where near being a responsible.

Well, not everyone has parents rich enough or in my case willing to pay(a long story >_>) for those "training wheels".  :P

Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Meridianland on January 10, 2008, 06:47:31 AM
It all depends on the person, the circumstances, and the necessity.  There are high schoolers that are way more mature than their middle aged parents....

It also depends on the amount of cowbell
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m310/mattyc33/cowbell.jpg)
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: B9 perspective on January 10, 2008, 07:19:11 AM
Quote from: Meridianland on January 10, 2008, 06:47:31 AM
It all depends on the person, the circumstances, and the necessity.  There are high schoolers that are way more mature than their middle aged parents....

It also depends on the amount of cowbell
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m310/mattyc33/cowbell.jpg)

agree with this^ ....there are soooooooo many variables that compose outlook and maturity. Certainly, experience can influence and stimulate new perspectives, but often unpredictably.....also, people can be very grown up about somethings and remain very childlike or childish (or both) in other areas. Growing up too soon can have childlike haunting side effects. I love Cowbells.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: kor on January 10, 2008, 08:55:47 AM
Haunting side effects? Only if you're weak!  :P
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Of Crazed on January 10, 2008, 11:00:27 PM
I'm lucky.  Though I have held a job all through High School, but I couldn't do it without a lot of help.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Meridianland on January 10, 2008, 11:27:16 PM
people grow up early all the time and theyre fine  and unhaunted, there's no perfect age for it to happen, unless you're like george bush (dick cheney's biotch) and you haven't grown up by like that age...
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: B9 perspective on January 11, 2008, 06:18:37 AM
Quote from: Korinn on January 10, 2008, 08:55:47 AM
Haunting side effects? Only if you're weak!  :P

Dunno what you intend by that.....perhaps that if people are strong they can overcome whatever.....inevitably some people do, but as well inevitably, some people don't. I think the population rate of incarcerated people who had tragic childhoods attests to this.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: kor on January 11, 2008, 08:55:43 AM
It was a joke. >_>
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: The G Rebellion on January 11, 2008, 11:25:42 PM
Teenagers get seen as mature by adults when they first start complaining about the amount they've been taxed this month... It's the only true sign of maturity :P
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 12, 2008, 02:53:32 PM
Quote from: The G Rebellion on January 11, 2008, 11:25:42 PM
Teenagers get seen as mature by adults when they first start complaining about the amount they've been taxed this month... It's the only true sign of maturity :P
:o
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Allama on January 14, 2008, 01:55:55 PM
Quote from: The G Rebellion on January 11, 2008, 11:25:42 PM
Teenagers get seen as mature by adults when they first start complaining about the amount they've been taxed this month... It's the only true sign of maturity :P

Amen, brother G!  Preach it!  :clap:
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 14, 2008, 10:58:19 PM
Teenagers have something like prison.

Teenager Prison=  School

Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: kor on January 15, 2008, 02:31:56 AM
Quote from: Twitchy on January 14, 2008, 10:58:19 PM
Teenagers have something like prison.

Teenager Prison=  School



Whiny teenagers. <_< "OMG, school is so bad! Boo-hoo, pity me." Grow up.  :P
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Allama on January 15, 2008, 05:19:55 PM
Quote from: Twitchy on January 14, 2008, 10:58:19 PM
Teenagers have something like prison.

Teenager Prison=  School

I understand where you're coming from; it does feel that way sometimes, especially when you're younger.  I know I thought that way myself at times.

As much as you probably don't want to have to hear what I'm about to say, though, when you're older you'll understand how free you were then.  Once you're saddled with finances and caring for a home and finding a career and doing a job you hate just to keep from being evicted, you'll almost start to wish you were still in school... it's a lot simpler to have those kinds of things taken care of for you.

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Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: The G Rebellion on January 15, 2008, 10:55:21 PM
If you think school is prison, I wouldn't commit any crimes... You'd be in for a horrible shock!

Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 15, 2008, 11:05:24 PM
Quote from: Allama on January 15, 2008, 05:19:55 PM
Quote from: Twitchy on January 14, 2008, 10:58:19 PM
Teenagers have something like prison.

Teenager Prison=  School

I understand where you're coming from; it does feel that way sometimes, especially when you're younger.  I know I thought that way myself at times.

As much as you probably don't want to have to hear what I'm about to say, though, when you're older you'll understand how free you were then.  Once you're saddled with finances and caring for a home and finding a career and doing a job you hate just to keep from being evicted, you'll almost start to wish you were still in school... it's a lot simpler to have those kinds of things taken care of for you.

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i know that when i get out of school, im preety much going to have to do everything by myself, and most peolpe think that they will be severd there entire life. (As in the word of one guy "What? you mean i have to get a job?!") So, its sorta like a blessing and a cruse to me. but, whatever.

and crimes, i was arrested in school a few days ago for asking how to spell something.

(langue arts teacher sucks!)
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: kor on January 17, 2008, 02:11:20 AM
Quote from: Allama on January 15, 2008, 05:19:55 PM
Quote from: Twitchy on January 14, 2008, 10:58:19 PM
Teenagers have something like prison.

Teenager Prison=  School

I understand where you're coming from; it does feel that way sometimes, especially when you're younger.  I know I thought that way myself at times.

As much as you probably don't want to have to hear what I'm about to say, though, when you're older you'll understand how free you were then.  Once you're saddled with finances and caring for a home and finding a career and doing a job you hate just to keep from being evicted, you'll almost start to wish you were still in school... it's a lot simpler to have those kinds of things taken care of for you.

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Old woman.  :-P   :wb:
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Of Crazed on January 17, 2008, 02:42:52 AM
You were right on one thing, I don't want to hear what you have to say...





















 :P
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: The Empire on January 17, 2008, 07:09:25 PM
ok, going on 24 I don't think I felt as an adult until this september when I started my first job, a job that I enjoy and feel a singificant ammount of pride for even if many people would turn up their noses at it.
What gives me that pride is that I'm standing on my own two feet, there is noone there telling me what to do, and when I need guidance or help, I better ask for it and I might get it, but if I don't, nobody is going to give a damn.
Living life isn't about having everything served to you on a silver platter. Life is about making choises and take the consequences, good and bad, and every single choise has both.

The spring after I had turned 18, I reported for my period of compulsory military service, it lasted 10 months and I enjoyed most of it. The best lessons I learned during those months was the following:
1) I learned to work as part of a group with people, some of which I didn't like without making a fuss about it.
2) I learned how resilent and capable I really am if I put my mind to it.
3) I learned that helping others as soon as I'm done with my own stuff will often bring nice returns in some way or another later on. If not possible to find useful immediately then perhaps in the shape of friendship, something that in the long run is even more useful.
One thing it didn't do was to make me an adult, a more responsible adolecent, sure but not adult.
The time I spent in higher education the following three years, living alone, hundreds of miles from any relatives and meeting my first and second(current) girlfriend did a lot more towards that milestone.

Finally, becoming an adult doesn't mean that you loose your inner child, it only means you have learned when to keep that inner child tucked away and when you can give it free reins.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Miller18 on January 17, 2008, 09:23:56 PM
Quote from: The Empire on January 17, 2008, 07:09:25 PM

Finally, becoming an adult doesn't mean that you loose your inner child, it only means you have learned when to keep that inner child tucked away and when you can give it free reins.

So true.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: The Empire on January 17, 2008, 09:31:14 PM
And that, my lords and ladies, are why I am completely out of bounds in #taijitu and vulgarly flirts ceaselessly with the ladies near my own age in there XD
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 17, 2008, 10:12:12 PM
Quote from: The Empire on January 17, 2008, 09:31:14 PM
And that, my lords and ladies, are why I am completely out of bounds in #taijitu and vulgarly flirts ceaselessly with the ladies near my own age in there XD

and I'm hopelessy lost.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Allama on January 18, 2008, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Miller18 on January 17, 2008, 09:23:56 PM
Quote from: The Empire on January 17, 2008, 07:09:25 PM

Finally, becoming an adult doesn't mean that you loose your inner child, it only means you have learned when to keep that inner child tucked away and when you can give it free reins.

So true.

Indeed!  When your inner child says, "Woooow, that cloud is so pretty!" it's a good time to listen as you'll enjoy your life more thoroughly, but when you go to the bookstore and see 12 things about which your inner child says, "I want it!!!!" you should stifle the urge.  Also, if it says, "Noooo, I don't wanna go to the doctor!" you shouldn't listen... >_<
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: kor on January 18, 2008, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: Allama on January 18, 2008, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Miller18 on January 17, 2008, 09:23:56 PM
Quote from: The Empire on January 17, 2008, 07:09:25 PM

Finally, becoming an adult doesn't mean that you loose your inner child, it only means you have learned when to keep that inner child tucked away and when you can give it free reins.

So true.

LOL.

My inner child died long ago.  :'(

Indeed!  When your inner child says, "Woooow, that cloud is so pretty!" it's a good time to listen as you'll enjoy your life more thoroughly, but when you go to the bookstore and see 12 things about which your inner child says, "I want it!!!!" you should stifle the urge.  Also, if it says, "Noooo, I don't wanna go to the doctor!" you shouldn't listen... >_<
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 18, 2008, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: Korinn on January 18, 2008, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: Allama on January 18, 2008, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Miller18 on January 17, 2008, 09:23:56 PM
Quote from: The Empire on January 17, 2008, 07:09:25 PM

Finally, becoming an adult doesn't mean that you loose your inner child, it only means you have learned when to keep that inner child tucked away and when you can give it free reins.

So true.

LOL.

My inner child died long ago.  :'(

Indeed!  When your inner child says, "Woooow, that cloud is so pretty!" it's a good time to listen as you'll enjoy your life more thoroughly, but when you go to the bookstore and see 12 things about which your inner child says, "I want it!!!!" you should stifle the urge.  Also, if it says, "Noooo, I don't wanna go to the doctor!" you shouldn't listen... >_<

that wasn't in al's post.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Solnath on January 20, 2008, 07:31:37 PM
Quote from: Allama on January 15, 2008, 05:19:55 PM
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Hey, at least he's hot, too!

Ah, adulthood, the phase I'll never reach. \o/
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: kor on January 20, 2008, 10:14:50 PM
Quote from: Twitchy on January 18, 2008, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: Korinn on January 18, 2008, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: Allama on January 18, 2008, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Miller18 on January 17, 2008, 09:23:56 PM
Quote from: The Empire on January 17, 2008, 07:09:25 PM

Finally, becoming an adult doesn't mean that you loose your inner child, it only means you have learned when to keep that inner child tucked away and when you can give it free reins.

So true.

LOL.

My inner child died long ago.  :'(

Indeed!  When your inner child says, "Woooow, that cloud is so pretty!" it's a good time to listen as you'll enjoy your life more thoroughly, but when you go to the bookstore and see 12 things about which your inner child says, "I want it!!!!" you should stifle the urge.  Also, if it says, "Noooo, I don't wanna go to the doctor!" you shouldn't listen... >_<

that wasn't in al's post.

Forum error. >_< That was my response.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Allama on January 22, 2008, 07:29:32 PM
Quote from: Grace Minus on January 20, 2008, 07:31:37 PM
Quote from: Allama on January 15, 2008, 05:19:55 PM
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Hey, at least he's hot, too!

Stop lusting after my father, you pervy bastard!  That was the first thing you said after leaving he and his wife's house.  >_<
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: The Empire on January 22, 2008, 08:03:12 PM
ROTFLMAO@^
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 22, 2008, 11:09:42 PM
we are a community of pervs.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bender1968 on January 23, 2008, 01:56:51 AM
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Ah, adulthood, the phase I'll never reach. \o/

Hey my ex-wife said the same thing about me.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Solnath on January 23, 2008, 03:24:44 PM
Quote from: Bender1968 on January 23, 2008, 01:56:51 AM
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Ah, adulthood, the phase I'll never reach. \o/

Hey my ex-wife said the same thing about me.

I think you're an adult if you have an ex-wife. Or a normal one. I was just thinking in terms of growth/life expectancy.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 23, 2008, 08:49:16 PM
ever body says the closet thing ill have to a wife is a hooker.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Solnath on January 23, 2008, 08:52:34 PM
There's a difference?
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 23, 2008, 08:53:56 PM
 :shrug:

i dont know
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Solnath on January 23, 2008, 09:11:25 PM
They're all whores. Every last one of them.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 24, 2008, 12:35:14 AM
i bet they are
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: The Empire on January 24, 2008, 04:29:36 PM
Even Al'?
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Solnath on January 24, 2008, 04:55:02 PM
She has a boyfriend. -.-

However, she has the plus-side of not having slept with me. Always a strong sign of not being that much of a whore.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 25, 2008, 12:56:26 AM
and shes my Spam Queen
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Allama on January 25, 2008, 05:40:36 PM
Wow, this topic sure degraded quickly.  ::)  Anyway, in that vein:

Quote from: Bender1968 on January 23, 2008, 01:56:51 AM
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Ah, adulthood, the phase I'll never reach. \o/

Hey my ex-wife said the same thing about me.

Right before you smacked a bitch up, yo?  Am I right, my homie?

>_>

<_<

^_^
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: kor on January 25, 2008, 05:49:33 PM
Hopefully he sent her ass to the kitchen.



Where she belongs. >_>

<_<

^_^
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Eientei on January 25, 2008, 05:57:43 PM
[Violently misogynistic comment]

^_^
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Allama on January 25, 2008, 06:00:17 PM
[Laughter accompanied by tacit agreement]

^_^
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 25, 2008, 08:36:51 PM
[shoots somebody with Violently misogynistic comment and then has Laughter accompanied by tacit agreement]

pwned
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bender1968 on January 25, 2008, 09:24:34 PM
No, I left and found someone better looking that treats me better, funny how karma works.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Solnath on January 26, 2008, 10:26:00 AM
Y'know, from a certain point of view, getting married seems like giving up freedom for security and we (especially the Americans here) know how that winds up ending.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 26, 2008, 02:36:02 PM
and also, whats wrong with having a kid with your girlfriend. ift as a kid nomatter what?
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Solnath on January 26, 2008, 02:58:40 PM
...Wha-?
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 26, 2008, 03:05:14 PM
this is the 2nd time you said that.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Eientei on January 26, 2008, 04:26:01 PM
Quote from: Grace Minus on January 26, 2008, 10:26:00 AM
Y'know, from a certain point of view, getting married seems like giving up freedom for security and we (especially the Americans here) know how that winds up ending.

I wouldn't mind being chained down, depending on who it's with.  I might even enjoy it.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 26, 2008, 04:28:49 PM
i im right on what im thinking, your a sick perv
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: The Empire on January 26, 2008, 04:37:59 PM
My girl sent me a heart-shaped pendant engraved with her name and a date, she had been given it at her baptising (as an infant) and I have worn it in a leather cord almost 24/7 since I got it, only taking it off for showers, I relish that connection and I am proud of stating that I am hers no matter what.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Eientei on January 26, 2008, 07:39:26 PM
Quote from: Twitchy on January 26, 2008, 04:28:49 PM
i im right on what im thinking, your a sick perv

Hey, I didn't say anything sick or perverted.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: The Empire on January 26, 2008, 07:55:04 PM
He's talking about himself Ei' :P
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 26, 2008, 07:55:46 PM
duh
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Eientei on January 26, 2008, 08:00:24 PM
Ah, my mistake.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Durnia on January 27, 2008, 03:27:49 PM
I was going to make an intelligent contribution, but...

*Matty shrugs
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on January 27, 2008, 05:35:43 PM
then make a stupid one.

Rawr
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Solnath on January 27, 2008, 07:52:49 PM
Quote from: Twitchy on January 27, 2008, 05:35:43 PM
then make a stupid one.

Rawr

Feel the Zen.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Akka-Wakka on January 27, 2008, 08:24:24 PM
Quote from: Eientei on January 26, 2008, 04:26:01 PM
Quote from: Grace Minus on January 26, 2008, 10:26:00 AM
Y'know, from a certain point of view, getting married seems like giving up freedom for security and we (especially the Americans here) know how that winds up ending.

I wouldn't mind being chained down, depending on who it's with.  I might even enjoy it.

As long as it wasn't George W Bush.

Now for an intelligent comment @ Al's original post:

I think being an adult start whenever you want it to.  You pointed out that some people start becoming self sufficient.  Truth is, there are still other people who will scrounge off their parents for a long time yet (it's quite a big problem here in the UK).  These people are still considered adults though. For me you become an adult when you have the chance to make your own way in society, even if you don't take that chance.

However, the more important thing I think is when do you become responsible, not necessarily for others, but simply for your self.  This part I think can happen whenever you take it upon yourself to make something of yourself, not at a set age.

All that being said, I'm still in college (High School for all you Yanks) so am not really at the stage yet where I can say anything out of experience.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Allama on February 01, 2008, 03:24:44 PM
There are very many people in my generation in the U.S. who mooch off of their parents for years and years after getting out of school, as well, most not even paying rent/contributing to the household.  Point in fact: of all of my offline friends between 22-27, I am the only one who has ever lived alone.  Most of them live/lived with their parents at least until 24-25, and those who have moved out live with roomies.  There's nothing wrong with roomies, of course, but it struck me as very odd when I found out I was the only one who chose to do it by herself.  Maybe my generation is lazy and scared, or maybe our parents' generation is overly indulgent... either way, it seems wrong for a 26-year-old man employed full-time and making plenty of money to still be living off of Mommy and Daddy's dime.

Oh, and don't worry about not having gone through this stage, yet; the human mind is capable of imaging and even understanding a great many things foreign to its own experience.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: kor on February 01, 2008, 03:36:35 PM
Quote from: Allama
Maybe my generation is lazy and scared, or maybe our parents' generation is overly indulgent... either way, it seems wrong for a 26-year-old man employed full-time and making plenty of money to still be living off of Mommy and Daddy's dime.

I agree. There's no excuse for that. If a person lives at home with their parents at 26 and is employed full time then they are not an adult. They are a full grown child. I have no respect for people like that.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: The Empire on February 01, 2008, 03:44:27 PM
Me neither, they don't deserve any, hell, they don't even deserve to vote.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Solnath on February 01, 2008, 03:49:43 PM
Judge not, lest thee be judged yourself.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: The Empire on February 01, 2008, 03:50:38 PM
I don't leech.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Solnath on February 01, 2008, 05:09:13 PM
Hey, that's really offensive to parasitical lifeforms. Besides, if they're suckers enough to pay for your upkeep, what's so bad about it?
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: The Empire on February 01, 2008, 05:18:55 PM
I have no mercy to offer any parasitical life forms regardless of species...
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Solnath on February 01, 2008, 05:23:04 PM
I have no mercy to offer any lifeforms that require others of their kind to function optimally.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on February 01, 2008, 05:55:57 PM
rawr
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Akka-Wakka on February 03, 2008, 10:32:40 AM
Well, we (the youth) are always being told not to grow up too quickly.

This is also a good thing for Twitchy/Bara/The monster that lives under your bed (sorry, couldn't help myself), as he still has a way to go.   :fight:
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on February 03, 2008, 01:34:44 PM
Larrys...like, 20. i think.
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Akka-Wakka on February 03, 2008, 04:55:05 PM
My bad.  I ment you.  I guess I'll just have to take you out for a drink when you're old enough.  :drunks:
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: Bara on February 08, 2008, 12:06:44 AM
i got gatorrade....
Title: Re: Adulthood
Post by: AWP_PSRDirector on February 09, 2008, 08:08:24 PM
Personally adulthood to me doesn't really exist, you just get older you learn what is accepted and what isn't and some learn to follow what they have learned others don't. So one person works, another lives with their parents I don't really see any difference.

I look at people who move out just to move out live in horrid apartments and don't have enough money to do anything just to be out, whose parents didn't kick them out. They are not adults they are idiots, Don't move out till you have to or you are actually financially ready