Taijitu
Forum Meta => Zocalo Archive => City Archive => Archive => Conservative Party => Topic started by: Prydania on October 15, 2007, 12:13:34 AM
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The Conservative Party of Taijitu is hereby founded. Sign up here for party membership, and we can get a child board here in the Zocalo when we obtain enough members!
CPT Members
Inglo-Scotia
Myroria
Sovereign Dixie
Greater Canadian Empire
Nathaniel
Templarios
B9 perspective
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I'll sign up.
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Wicked ;D
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I'm in if ya want me.
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Of course we want ya!
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Hahaha! You're stuck with me then!
Ya poor miserable bastards... :P
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Hey I want in too. ;D
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Wicked ;D
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Just an update, given that the Taijitun Communist Party, the smallest organization with a child forum, has seven members, we just need three more members to get our CF! w00t!
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Feel free to take the Progressive Party's place. We've been dead since forever.
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Feel free to take the Progressive Party's place. We've been dead since forever.
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w00t!
I'm still not sure what that means, but it sounds kick ass.
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I hope you guys win!
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Thanks for the support :)
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I know that our ticket is a long shot... and this is the closest thing I've made to a political speech since I don't know when, but this region is so full of idiocy that something has got to be done. This is NOT what I had in mind when I signed on to help make this place, and the Taijitu of my first Delegacy, and what it is now, couldn't be more different.
We've got a senate that thinks it knows everything, people being chastised just because they're pro-raider. I just seen something sad but amusing on our WFE.. and that's that the latest UN Resolution is to Repeal The "Common Sense Act" whatever the hell that's supposed to mean, I don't usually waste time with those things. But someone from Taijitu musta drafted it, because if I've ever seen a repeal of common sense, it's here.
We need separation of powers.
We need Checks and Balances against ALL BRANCHES of the Government
We need to make it clear that being here is not a right, it's a privilege, and that people shouldn't be allowed to act like morons and make complete pests of themselves. This place is... frankly... too damned tolerant! The Soly's the Ranholns, Delfoses, Govindias.. the colossal pains in the ass that just make you scratch your head and say 'what the fuck?!" People like that have no need to be here.
This region needs it's balls back, by God! If I coulda done it as a Delegate, I think each and every one of you knows I would have. I'm as much to blame for this problem, perhaps more so, than anyone else. Lord knows though, I never saw this shit comin' or I woulda put a stop to it way back when I had a chance.
Nationstates is frankly, dying. People would rather sit on their asses and debate endlessly than to actually play the fuckin' game. It absolutely reeks of stagnation. PoD Gunner tried doing something about that.. and look where it got him! A bunch of whiney asses screaming for his head on a platter! This region can be great in ways other than just numbers and post counts. It's up to CPT to make it happen, as i think it's the last shot this place is gonna have.
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I don't know if the ability to let me make new posts in the election forum is up yet, so I'll just declare just a few of my goals as Delegate:
- Less power to the Senate. Right now Taijitu is an oligarchy by the Senate: If you're not in, you don't have a say. Don't want to join? Too bad, it's either join or don't have a say. I recommend more abilities for the citizens to vote on Senate issues.
- Separation of Powers. SDixie suggested this near the end of the term, and the oligarchy strongly refused to give up any of its power.
- Making the IRC channel Taijitu's, not Eluvatar's. #taijitu should be for governed by Taiji law, and all citizens given ops until they prove they are not worthy of them.
So remember what SDixie said near the end of the Lexicon crisis..."If I knew this would happen, I would have voted for Myroria".
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Interesting to see Tories advocating for nationalization...
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Interesting to see Tories advocating for nationalization...
Nationalization? We're not trying to bring the RP Shoppes or the Bazaar under government control ;D
The IRC channel? As an organ of Taijitu it should be run by the Taijituan government.
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Well, there's already a national bank...
But seriously, currently the IRC channel's privately owned and operated, and the CPT (according to Myroria's platform) wants to put it under control of the government. I just find that incredibly funny.
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Well, there's already a national bank...
But seriously, currently the IRC channel's privately owned and operated, and the CPT (according to Myroria's platform) wants to put it under control of the government. I just find that incredibly funny.
Well Canada as a national bank, and we're far from Communist ;D
Yes, it is kind of ironic, but with the recent crisis over people losing their ops, we feel that under current management the IRC is a mess.
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Well Canada as a national bank, and we're far from Communist
Perfectly true.
Yes, it is kind of ironic, but with the recent crisis over people losing their ops, we feel that under current management the IRC is a mess.
Again, perfectly true. I would like to make the point that there doesn't seem much for the TCP to do. The bank is nationalized, the IRC channel (should you get your way) will be nationalized, the democratic branch is the most powerful branch of the Tai government, there is no form of economic exploitation...
Draw your own conclusions.
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Yes, it is kind of ironic, but with the recent crisis over people losing their ops, we feel that under current management the IRC is a mess.
Again, perfectly true. I would like to make the point that there doesn't seem much for the TCP to do. The bank is nationalized, the IRC channel (should you get your way) will be nationalized, the democratic branch is the most powerful branch of the Tai government, there is no form of economic exploitation...
Draw your own conclusions.
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Oh, there'd be plenty for you to do. Like nationalize the RP Shoppes or the Bazaar. That seems to fit Socialist/Communistic economic theory.
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Not really. First off, RP exists in its own little fantasy world. The money exchanged is not, in most cases, Tai, but the national currencies of one or more nations, which have even less actual existence or value. Secondly, the exchange of goods and services is not prohibited by any sort of socialism, and the forum for the exchange, the Bazaar, need not be state-owned. The both the production and exchange of the goods and services to be exchanged in the Bazaar conforms entirely to socialist principles (i.e., each person produces the goods/services they sell), and the exchange of goods and services produces no surplus value.
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Not really. First off, RP exists in its own little fantasy world. The money exchanged is not, in most cases, Tai, but the national currencies of one or more nations, which have even less actual existence or value. Secondly, the exchange of goods and services is not prohibited by any sort of socialism, and the forum for the exchange, the Bazaar, need not be state-owned. The both the production and exchange of the goods and services to be exchanged in the Bazaar conforms entirely to socialist principles (i.e., each person produces the goods/services they sell), and the exchange of goods and services produces no surplus value.
Good enough point.
Still, this whole thing is kind of pointless, at least here in the CPT thread. This really doesn't have to do with the fledging party, and like or not we're here to stay ;D
We've got just as much a right to exist as the TCP does.
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...Did I say you weren't here to stay, or that you didn't have the right to exist? Quite honestly, I like having CPT around. Not only does it make the acronyms far more confusing than they were already, its presence marks the second time that an ideological party has arisen in Taijitu.
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...Did I say you weren't here to stay, or that you didn't have the right to exist? Quite honestly, I like having CPT around. Not only does it make the acronyms far more confusing than they were already, its presence marks the second time that an ideological party has arisen in Taijitu.
We love you to ;D
We're a new party, perhaps I took some of your posts as an attempt to try and prove the CPT has no reason for existing. If I took those posts out of context, I apologize.
Campaign season and all. You tend to take a closer look at what people are saying, sometimes to close.
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If you look at the fifteenth word of every post that I've made since October 11, translate those words into Hebrew, take the numerological value of the letters of those words, and divide that by seven, you get the number of brain cells I just lost while typing this.
The point? Sometimes it pays to look closely.
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ZOMG October 11 is one month more than September 11. You want to change them into HEBREW? THAT MUST MEAN THE JEWS DID 9/11!!!!!!!!!111onetwothree
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lol. Actually, they're translated into Hebrew because that's the only language which I'm familiar with the numerological value of the letters.
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Well, IRC is a clusterfuck right now, and the thing with me saying "I TOLD YOU SO" with Govindia... that's reffering to me telling everyone and their mother in IRC that he was bad news, as he harrassed ppl constantly, but was allowed to continue in the spirit of 'tolerance" heh.. bullshit... and now, after everone thought ol' SD was an asshat, look who's on fuckin' trial? Govindia!
But ya struck on a key word GC.. *Nationalism*
That's what we need man, some Taijitan Nationalism... I think we could use a good dose of that in here.
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What I actually said was "nationalization," but good luck with that.
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Ugh, I need glasses.
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Doesn't sound bad; although, I won't take or support any actions against Soly, Delfos or Govindia (someone of you mentioned these three before). But I really like the ideas of what to do with Taijitu.
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We're not going out to ban them or harm them in anyway; SDixie just finds them annoying. He just made an example of them; an unauthorized banning is against everything we stand for.
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Welcome Nate :D
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Yeah, what Myro said. Though if one, or better yet, all three were to leave, I'd take it as my lucky day and go out to buy every damn lottery ticket I could get my hands on. But I'm not for OMGBANNINGZ.. trust me, I've had plenty of chances to, if that were my aim.
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I think SD is awesome.
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Hello all, so hows the party going?
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Just got his PM, welcome to the CPT Templarios!
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I submit my application for membership to this party. Must I also explain or submit my reasons?
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Ummm, dont think so but welcome!
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phew...*wipes forehead* thanks.
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Haha, dont think there is any reason why you couldnt join us.
Any reason why you want to?
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yes. I understand that this party would need 7 members to acquire the childboard-otherwise, it looks like the only active political party in these parts, I'd hope that joining might somehow stimulate some activity.
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w00t! Welcome B9!
Yes, last I checked, we needed seven members. Well the rules say we have to match the lowest membership number of any organization that has a child board. Last I ran the numbers the Communist Party has seven active members (Ranholn voluntarily left the region). That may have changed, but either way I'll finalize our application.
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rockin' thanks...chin-chin to the Tories! (and yes I know what chin-chin means in Japanese)
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rockin' thanks...chin-chin to the Tories! (and yes I know what chin-chin means in Japanese)
What does it mean?
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in Italian, it is simply onomatopoeia, imitating the sound of glasses clinking...in Japanese, name for body part the fellas have that the girls don't.
Didja know that the tradition of clinking glasses comes from a time in history when poisoning at the round table was popular? In response to the problem, when local leaders met together everyone was required to pour a bit of their drink into the next guy's chalice, that way, if anyone was poisoning, everyone would be poisoned..clinking glasses was a way of saying, not to worry, I trust ya.
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Well, you learn something new every day!
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Ranholn's coming back by the end of December, or so he tells me. JSYK.
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Well, you learn something new every day!
Well, on good days, yes. Glad to see that the party is atleast attempting to discover what are the membership counts of the other boards...perhaps a Senate proposal can be made that introduces an activity prerequisite for the Zocalo childboards; after 180 days of no activity, it can be substituted with a more active one?
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Well, you learn something new every day!
Well, on good days, yes. Glad to see that the party is atleast attempting to discover what are the membership counts of the other boards...perhaps a Senate proposal can be made that introduces an activity prerequisite for the Zocalo childboards; after 180 days of no activity, it can be substituted with a more active one?
Try but doubt it would work
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can't help but agree with ya there,lol. I mean, if my Senate application isn't responded to than I can hardly introduce new legislation...
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can't help but agree with ya there,lol. I mean, if my Senate application isn't responded to than I can hardly introduce new legislation...
It has but thats not the point. The senate (i think) wouldnt pass it.
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My Senate application has been responded to? Odd, I just reread it and zippo....( or if it's been responded to I'm cluesless as to where and by whom...unless silence IS the response.Perhaps you misunderstood what I was referring to.
In any case, I ask for your humble opinion on why you don't think it would pass?
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My Senate application has been responded to? Odd, I just reread it and zippo....( or if it's been responded to I'm cluesless as to where and by whom...unless silence IS the response.
O_o
There are 2 responses to the thread B9 perspective's Senate Application: Ends December 20th (http://forum.taijitu.org/the-senate-chambers/b9-perspective's-senate-application/0/) as of right now...
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My Senate application has been responded to? Odd, I just reread it and zippo....( or if it's been responded to I'm cluesless as to where and by whom...unless silence IS the response.Perhaps you misunderstood what I was referring to.
In any case, I ask for your humble opinion on why you don't think it would pass?
Click on the link in Allama's post
I dont think it would pass because its not needed as this area has low use. There is more pressing matters such as judical law and the loss of nations in the region. Also the senate (as a whole) believes in less legislation compared to other regions i have seen who have laws for everything little thing. Others can disagree with me here but i dont think it would pass even if it got to a vote. sorry.
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Thanks for the link...don't think I'd of found otherwise....
No need to apologize Temp--I asked for your opinion......Certainly the rapidly diminishing pop. count and current judicial undertakings would and should be priorities.....
SOMETIMES flexibility regarding forum procedure can stimulate activity, my idea is not about creating more legislation or policy for it's own sake, but rather in hopes that attention and stimulation can be drawn to areas of stagnation.
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SOMETIMES flexibility regarding forum procedure can stimulate activity, my idea is not about creating more legislation or policy for it's own sake, but rather in hopes that attention and stimulation can be drawn to areas of stagnation.
That would be the responsibility of the minister who controlled this area more than the senate
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...and the Minister that controls this area is???
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Guessing Community?
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...and the Minister that controls this area is???
Guessing Community?
The Minister of Community does not have (and never has had) Mod powers in the Zocalo and Acropolis and thus cannot control the childboards, though I do recall it being said at some point on IRC that they were under the MoC's jurisdiction... either that was changed or it's an oversight of some kind. :(
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...and the Minister that controls this area is???
Guessing Community?
The Minister of Community does not have (and never has had) Mod powers in the Zocalo and Acropolis and thus cannot control the childboards, though I do recall it being said at some point on IRC that they were under the MoC's jurisdiction... either that was changed or it's an oversight of some kind. :(
Opps, sorry Allama.
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No worries, you weren't being negative; just presenting a hypothesis. :) No apologies!
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Wonderful - hugs all round!
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Well, it seems like those boards certainly should be under the MoC jurisdiction...
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Can Allama just take control of them then?
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If she talked to an admin, maybe.
Anyway, I'll apply for the Conservative Party if I-S is around to accept the app.
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I think on behalf of I-S you are accepted. He will confirm this to be correct but welcome
9th 8th member!!!
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indeed, welcome to CPT Osamafune!
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The First Conservative Delegate Has Been Elected!!!!!! Drinks All Around!!!! :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks: :drunks:
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I'll sign up! :clap:
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Am I a member of the Conservative Party now?
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I leave Conservative Party.
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This is a paleoconservative and libertarian party, not the so called "conservatives" (Which are really theocrats) of the American Republican Party.