Taijitu
Forum Meta => Government of Taijitu, 2014 => Archive => Civic Center => Topic started by: Eluvatar on October 28, 2013, 02:08:59 PM
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Well, I guess its' that time again. So the forum calendar says, at least.
I suppose we'll need to wake the Chief Justice to hold the actual voting, though... :fight:
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hahaha, you're hilarious Elu. Nobody cares. :drunks: Ad Hoc government ftw!
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I for one welcome our new justice.
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???
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I nominate mcmasterdonia! :P
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I don't think the King Regent should also be Chief Justice
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From the vulgar McMasterdonia's viewpoint the terms dictatorship and democracy are mutually exclusive. Failing to understand the theory of class struggle, and accustomed to seeing in the political arena the petty squabbling of the various regional, Pacifian and endogamy circles and coteries, McMasterdonia conceives dictatorship to mean the annulment of all the liberties and guarantees of democracy, tyranny of every kind, and every sort of abuse of power in the personal interests of a dictator.
(http://www.gordsellar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/lenin-and-the-masses.jpg)
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I don't think that adequately describes my proposed system at all.
Direct democracy comprising all members who wish to join the Senate. Unlimited legislative power by the Senate, yet the ability for the monarch to step in, in the event of a crisis or inability to govern.
It gives us a plan for the future and protects the rights of citizens.
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I don't think that adequately describes my proposed system at all.
Direct democracy comprising all members who wish to join the Senate. Unlimited legislative power by the Senate, yet the ability for the monarch to step in, in the event of a crisis or inability to govern.
It gives us a plan for the future and protects the rights of citizens.
How can you call it direct democracy if you confine it on the concept of senate, with "unlimited legislative power" but then a monarch save it, like of he's an automaton fireman, ready to put out a fire by the press of a button. That way you will always keep the Senate hostage by another power, completely useless, unless someone - you? - does not agree with the will of the People, and feel they're doing the right thing by stepping in. Why wouldn't an assembly of People have the right to deliberate in the event of a crisis or such "inability to govern"? Why do they need a monarchic plan for their future? protecting their rights or rather protecting the power of a king?
(http://jspivey.wikispaces.com/file/view/beheading_the_king_and_queen.JPG/44103077/beheading_the_king_and_queen.JPG)
People cannot be subject to your monarchy, hostage of your whim, only a participative democracy without rulers coercing it's will, a full direct democracy, that do not address the issues of a monarchy, but the issues of the People, organizing itself by need instead of hierarchic status. It's the government that has to follow the will of the people, not the other way around.
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Nominate people. You have till Tuesday.
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mcmasterdonia I was nominating you for Delegate D:
Chief Justice is not an elected position |:
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Can I be Delegate of the forum and delegate the delegate of NS to someone else? I don't want to do it.
And shut up Delfos. The reserve powers are only there for an emergency, get your tits out of a twist.
I won't use them unless the region is in a state where the Senate cannot act.
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Can I be Delegate of the forum and delegate the delegate of NS to someone else? I don't want to do it.
And shut up Delfos. The reserve powers are only there for an emergency, get your tits out of a twist.
I won't use them unless the region is in a state where the Senate cannot act.
Nobody shuts me up! You have the opportunity of stepping away and let people have the power! Down with the ruling class!
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You are a member of the ruling class. Whether you admit it or not.
Ignorance is bliss, apparently.
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Well, so was Lenin.
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:trout: the point is to not have differences, not have "leaders".
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If we have no leaders, we will be without direction.
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the direction is decided by the an assembly of people, not senators, not delegates, not commissars, not a king. It's the people, whoever those may be, and their problems faced at the dire moment which need a collective answer, not a moral code or figure, not a tyrant to say what his whim might be.
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I will run for Delegate.
I offer St Oz to join me as my candidate for the Vice Delegacy, assuming he will offer me the same on his ticket so that we can both have legitimate candidacies.
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:clap:
I nominate New Delfos. :tai:
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I will make New Delfos the same offer.
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No Vice Delegate has been nominated. Therefore, only a Delegate will be selected and the Vice Delegate seat will remain vacant. Due to 1 day of delay, voting will end November 10th, instead of November 9th. Good luck.
EDIT: One problem experienced last time was with getting ballots to people. Please make sure your forum e-mail is valid in order to get your ballots.
EDIT x2: I realized that a Lieutenant Delegate is necessarily required by law. Despite the fact that the ballots have already been sent, I am going to, due to the need for a Lieutenant Delegate by law, advise everyone to consider the Lieutenant Delegate candidate in this election to be St. Oz, as the candidate running for Delegate must select a Lieutenant Delegate candidate on his own accord. St. Oz was the first name submitted and will be used given the fact that two potential candidates were mentioned.
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I honestly have not received a ballot.
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You should all have received one by now.
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you ought to inform by telegram in NS as well. if you have the citizen list it should be easy.
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You should all have received one by now.
I haven't received one.
I'm not trying to make a mockery of the system, I just think it's a big disadvantage if citizens don't receive ballots, and worth pointing out that this is currently the case.
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actually it's in my junk folder
sorry for the false alarm
ballots by TG to post on RMB is a good idea though
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Let's be fair to Funkadelia. We have a law that requires him to do things this way.
We should probably fix that to be less complex and fragile.
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I do not appear to have received a ballot, however.
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:tai: :whip:
for sake of crap, I accept to be LtD of Elu, but I'd like to have a chance to sit down with him and talk about our future.
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I have voted for Eluvatar.
I hope that we have a constitutional convention and agree to stop using Civs.
Also requiring a Vice Delegate seems silly if they are not required to be in the WA and not required to have any involvement in the regions government.
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We don't need a constitution convention for that, just repeal the law/clause that requires it.
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My apologies for the lack of attendance. Ballots could not be sent to Eluvatar or St. Oz, due to e-mailing errors. Sorry about that, but I tried to get you to put the correct e-mail on your profile. Anyway, here are the results:
http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_d614dd7cf17474e2
1. Eluvatar (No Running Mate) ProP - 6
2. None of the Above - 0
Of course, the Lieutenant Delegate is St. Oz, due to my appended note.
Congratulations to Delegate-elect Eluvatar and Lieutenant Delegate-elect St. Oz.
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It is unanimous! With 100% of the vote my
reign of terror schedule of duties begins!