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Title: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Of Crazed on March 23, 2008, 03:12:31 AM
Was indeed the best movie of 07.

See it.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Myroria on March 23, 2008, 03:37:42 AM
Call it.


Friend-o.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Bara on March 23, 2008, 02:51:02 PM
never seen it.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Trey on April 06, 2008, 01:42:43 AM
I just heard a very intricate explanation of what this film means...WOW, that's depressing.  And yet...I'll probably watch it tonight.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Chairman Steve on April 07, 2008, 05:02:54 AM
Was indeed the best movie of 07.

See it.

OH YEAH!
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Trey on April 14, 2008, 07:01:27 PM
Was indeed the best movie of 07.

See it.

Alas, I must disagree.  I saw it over the weekend...it was very good, but not great, and not the best film of 2007.  Plus, the ending pissed me off.  I have seen three truly great films from 2007...The Bourne Ultimatum, There Will Be Blood, and Juno.  I saw Country and Blood back to back, and, I have to admit, Blood was, for me, the better film.  And yet, it is only the second best film of 2007...Juno takes the top spot of my list.

10. Fido
9. Fracture
8. No Country for Old Men
7. The Great Debaters
6. Death at a Funeral
5. American Gangster
4. Across the Universe
3. The Bourne Ultimatum
2. There Will Be Blood
1. Juno
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Myroria on April 14, 2008, 07:45:51 PM
Across the Universe was a long acid trip, and, while good for a Pink Floyd song or 2001, wasn't so great for re-imaginings of Beatles songs. The original were the best.

TWBB got a 4 out of 5 for me. I think that it didn't stick close enough to the book, but it was a terrific movie anyway. The major difference being in Oil! the tycoon loves his son dearly and hates himself, rather than the other way around.

No Country for Old Men was the best movie of 2007, in my opinion. Holy shit, Michael Clayton was the most boring movie I've ever seen and I couldn't even finish it.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Of Crazed on April 14, 2008, 08:13:28 PM
No Country for Old Man is awesome because of it's ending, in fact the ending is why the movie is one of the best movie.  What No Country is about is not about the killer, it is not about the guy who gets the money, it is not about the shoot outs or the wife.  No Country is the story of Tommy Lee Jones, and despite how lame this sounds, the fact that there is no country for old men.

What No Country is about, you wont get from the awesome action bits, but from the dialog and the characters actions.  It is about that our world is too fast pace and brutal.  When we are young, we are intrigued by it and may even join in on it. (See the guy that stole the money)  However as we grow old, there is no place for us.  It is not because society changed, it was the same when they were younger, but it is because you changed with old age.  In the end Tommy Lee's character can't keep up, it's why he retires.  I thought one of the parts of the movie was when tommy lee was talking to the fat guy about how violent the people were who commited the murder of the guy who stole the money.  That is when the movie really clicked with me.

If you didn't like the ending, it makes me really question why you ranked No Country so high, because the ending is such an important part of the themes and ideas presented in the film.

As far as conflict resolution goes in the movie, what is not to like?  The killer is not caught, still punishing people according to his personal values.  The Wife, I assumed dies, protecting her own personal values as well.  And most importantly, Tommy Lee retires going to more simple things that he can keep up with.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Chairman Steve on April 14, 2008, 09:42:56 PM
As far as conflict resolution goes in the movie, what is not to like?  The killer is not caught, still punishing people according to his personal values.  The Wife, I assumed dies, protecting her own personal values as well.  And most importantly, Tommy Lee retires going to more simple things that he can keep up with.

Modernism, OH YEAH!
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Of Crazed on April 14, 2008, 10:13:25 PM
Well, no, not in No Country.  It's more the fact the he is changing vrs everything becoming more modern.  At least that is what I got out of it.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Trey on April 19, 2008, 05:30:50 PM
I had no issue with Tommy Lee Jones' character's decision.  I even understood the meaning of the two dreams (I think).  The abruptness of the ending was what pissed me off here.  Now, the finale of The Sopranos was an abrupt ending done right.  This one was a little more annoying than genius...but I understand Tommy's dilemma, and still liked the rest of the film enough to rate it this high.  Plus, Javier Bardem was stunningly good as Fate Anton Chigurh.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Of Crazed on April 27, 2008, 01:33:45 AM
It was genius, plus you put juno as your number 1 movie so I win.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Of Crazed on April 27, 2008, 02:23:19 AM
Number fuckin 8?

Juno number 1

AHHAAHHAHAHAHBWHAHAHA
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Myroria on April 27, 2008, 02:36:02 AM
Oh yeah, how about that classic Death at a Funeral?
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: PoD Gunner on April 27, 2008, 02:44:04 PM
Have had it on my laptop for a while now. Guess I should watch it. Or delete it.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Of Crazed on April 27, 2008, 03:17:18 PM
Watch it.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Trey on April 30, 2008, 12:52:42 AM
Oh yeah, how about that classic Death at a Funeral?


Have you seen it yet?  Or are you automatically assuming that, since you haven't heard of it, this tiny British comedy cannot possibly be as good as No Country for Old Men...

Roger Ebert also had Juno at #1...last I checked, he seems to be pretty knowledgeable about films. 

Yup, number fuckin 8...and proud of it.  Right up there with the LA Times, USA Today, and the Wall Street Journal.

I'm not using critics as clout...I know No Country for Old Men has more critical acclaim.  I'm just pointing out that some refutable people agree with me...in other words, I'm not the only "crazy" one...

But ultimately, it's my decision, formed by my personality and experiences.  I couldn't give a flying fuck about No Country for Old Men's "amazing atmosphere" or deep ending if I just didn't like it.  But I did like it...just not enough to put it at the top of my list.  It's not like I gave it 2 stars or slammed the film as a waste of time.  It was a good film...just, for me, the 8th best of 2007. And please don't act like I don't like "artsy", "deep" or "long and dramatic" films, considering I have There Will Be Blood at #2.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Myroria on April 30, 2008, 02:23:20 AM
There Will Be Blood isn't long, deep, or artsy. It has no philisophical values besides "Look what money does to you", and you can get that from picking up any Upton Sinclair book, let alone watching a movie that's just a tad sort of barely based on Oil!.

Yes, I've seen Death at a Funeral, and it suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. British comedy is generally very sardonic, which is why I hate it. I'm a pretty jackassish guy, but even I don't laugh at the stuff the British do.

And critics also ranked Manos: The Hands of Fate low. But ask Annexea and you'll get a very different opinion.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Of Crazed on April 30, 2008, 02:50:52 AM
I just find it funny you were the first person to bring up all the words you quoted.

Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Trey on May 01, 2008, 06:56:57 AM
There Will Be Blood isn't long, deep, or artsy. It has no philisophical values besides "Look what money does to you", and you can get that from picking up any Upton Sinclair book, let alone watching a movie that's just a tad sort of barely based on Oil!.

Yes, I've seen Death at a Funeral, and it suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. British comedy is generally very sardonic, which is why I hate it. I'm a pretty jackassish guy, but even I don't laugh at the stuff the British do.

And critics also ranked Manos: The Hands of Fate low. But ask Annexea and you'll get a very different opinion.

Well, I typically like sardonic humor, and that film was a prime example.  And, from the 15 minutes or so I've seen of Manos, it seems so bad it's funny. 

And I was using those words because I've heard them before from others when I mention Juno as my favorite film of 2007.  Most assume it's just because I'm 15 and have no appreciation for the "great" films.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Myroria on May 01, 2008, 07:27:45 PM
I'm 15, and 9 out of 10 doctors agree - I cannot be wrong.

EDIT: The 1 doctor is my psychiatrist.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Trey on May 01, 2008, 11:59:12 PM
Oh, so that's where your inherent belief that you're right came from.  Your psych has my prayers... :)
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Bara on May 02, 2008, 12:08:26 AM
and mine.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Myroria on May 02, 2008, 12:23:29 AM
You shouldn't be talking, Bara.
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Trey on May 02, 2008, 05:46:17 PM
You shouldn't be talking, Bara.

Once again, I agree with you, Myo.   :D
Title: Re: No Country For Old Men
Post by: Bara on May 03, 2008, 08:05:32 PM
ha ha ha, very funny.