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Offline Khem

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Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« on: March 17, 2015, 04:40:05 AM »
As I posted in Spammy Posts and was touched on by others our system of post count titles may be inegaletarian and thus subject to discussion of change. Should we endeavor to do such? Is it worthwhile? Could we enshrine further messages of the Glorious Revolution in this act? I of course lean towards yes to all these questions.

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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2015, 07:53:38 AM »
I have no strong feelings one way or the other.

I can see both sides, that is.

That said, I'd like to pipe in to say that it is technically possible to change or remove the post count titles, or even remove the visible post count itself next to posts.
                                 
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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2015, 01:52:38 PM »
Wouldn't this line of thinking apply to all titles?  Including titles denoted by elected office?
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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2015, 02:14:08 PM »
Wouldn't this line of thinking apply to all titles?  Including titles denoted by elected office?

That doesn't make sense. One cannot elect someone to an office without giving that office some sort of designation. Otherwise it's impossible to refer to it in conversation or law. That's just how language works. :P

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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2015, 02:19:30 PM »
If people feel very strongly about it, I wouldn't mind hiding the post ranks. However, I think we should keep post counts visible.

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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2015, 02:29:53 PM »
I agree with Dyr on this one.
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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2015, 02:39:02 PM »
If people feel very strongly about it, I wouldn't mind hiding the post ranks. However, I think we should keep post counts visible.

Also agreed. Hiding the ranks jives with our egalitarian system.

Post counts, however, are a simple statistic, indicative neither of title nor rank when displayed alone.

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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2015, 02:53:10 PM »
If people feel very strongly about it, I wouldn't mind hiding the post ranks. However, I think we should keep post counts visible.

Also agreed. Hiding the ranks jives with our egalitarian system.

Post counts, however, are a simple statistic, indicative neither of title nor rank when displayed alone.

and completely useless. Why do you need to know every time someone posts how many posts he has made? If you're that curious you can see his profile and all those stats 1 click away.

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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2015, 03:51:19 PM »
Wouldn't this line of thinking apply to all titles?  Including titles denoted by elected office?

That doesn't make sense. One cannot elect someone to an office without giving that office some sort of designation. Otherwise it's impossible to refer to it in conversation or law. That's just how language works. :P

Says the Padishah Empress.    :keke:

Well, we did get rid of address by noble titles, but we do not address each other by "Spam Deity Bustos" or such.  I just see this as superfluous.
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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2015, 03:54:46 PM »
Wouldn't this line of thinking apply to all titles?  Including titles denoted by elected office?

That doesn't make sense. One cannot elect someone to an office without giving that office some sort of designation. Otherwise it's impossible to refer to it in conversation or law. That's just how language works. :P

Says the Padishah Empress.    :keke:

Well, we did get rid of address by noble titles, but we do not address each other by "Spam Deity Bustos" or such.  I just see this as superfluous.

Hahaha I'd forgotten I made that my custom banner thing. Will have to change it!

What's the connection between noble titles/post-count titles and elected offices, though? I'm sorry if I'm being obtuse but I still don't get it.

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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2015, 04:47:33 PM »
How did the post count/title thing even start?


The connection is, it's a title.
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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2015, 05:02:23 PM »
What is the procedure for the Ecclesia wanting to change an administrative thing on the forums?

We demand it to be erased by the forum administration?

Also, I think there's people wanting to sabotage the real deal. This is about post count titles/ranks, we could by extension discuss the post count itself, which imo should also be erased bc it's completely useless and holds no practical value, but as we can all witness: the "post count titles" or ranks have much more people against it and I'd like to explore and spearhead that option first. A "Package deal" on this proposal would most likely fail.

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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2015, 05:19:35 PM »
Agreed, so as to the titles, should they be abolished or altered?

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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2015, 05:29:28 PM »
Let's just get rid of the post-count-based titles.

As to the post counts themselves, it's an interesting and fun statistic but it isn't strictly necessary. Whatever the Ecclesia wishes on that is fine by me.

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Re: Egalitarian principles violated by post-count titles?
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2015, 05:40:13 PM »
Unless there's an objection within a reasonable amount of time (let's say a week) I suggest an admin (i.e. me) just remove the postcount titles.

If there is an objection, we can have a formal vote on a proposal to end post count titles on the regional forum.
                                 
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